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Re:Dutch e-bike maker VanMoof goes bankrupt, leaving riders ... by sam_lowry_ on Thursday August 24, 2023 @06:00AM (#37246988)
Looking at their nick I guess the author is Dutch or Belgian.

And in both countries, showers are pretty much required by local regulations in office buildings.

Re:Dutch e-bike maker VanMoof goes bankrupt, leaving riders ... by sushibowl on Thursday August 24, 2023 @06:17AM (#37247117)
As a Dutch person, this seems wrong. Only one office building I've ever worked at in my life provided showers for employees, it's quite rare to see. And it would be seen as quite unusual for people to shower when they get to work.

It might be a lifestyle thing, but sweating is not really an issue. Like, a lot of people in this country have been biking their way to school and/or work their whole life, they can handle a leisurely pace on mostly flat terrain without sweating. Biking around like that is not exercise to me, it's relaxing.

Re:Dutch e-bike maker VanMoof goes bankrupt, leaving riders ... by ArnoVW on Thursday August 24, 2023 @10:21AM (#37249070)
Viewpoint of a Dutch national that has lived in sub-urban UK and in urban France: you're probably not realising how flat and dense the Netherlands are.

I'm not saying bikes are not a valid commuting method outside of NL. Just that in NL they are particularly well adapted

Re:Dutch e-bike maker VanMoof goes bankrupt, leaving riders ... by em500 on Thursday August 24, 2023 @06:17AM (#37247121)
Don't know about Belgium, but there are no Dutch regulations requiring showers in office buildings[1], unless the work environment is exceptionally warm, dirty or involves dangerous chemical/biological products.

The average (non-electric) city bike speed here is probably around 10-15km/h, which makes a bike commute not any more strenuous than a literal walk (not jog) in the park. Nobody here expects people to shower after a walk. Of course it also helps that the country is very flat, the climate is mild, and cities are compact.

[1] https://www.wolterskluwer.com/nl-be/expert-insights/as-a-cli...

Re:Dutch e-bike maker VanMoof goes bankrupt, leaving riders ... by wouldbecouldbe on Thursday August 24, 2023 @06:08AM (#37247036)
I've never met anyone that showers after getting to the office.

We normally just don't cycle hard enough to build up to much of a sweat.

However hot summer days are a challenge.