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Re:Dirty downside of 'return to office'; ending WFH could ma... by someone321 on Friday August 18, 2023 @03:53PM (#37181198)
Love this. Really. Everytime I hear people say "yeah I don't want kids because of how f* the planet is" it turns out all these guys are part being 100% themselves part of the problem.

What if we focus on having a positive impact ourselves ? What if we teach our children what we're learning so that the next gen might eventually do things better than we do instead of just saying "oh yeah kids are just bad for the environment, but I do literally 0 efforts myself to do something, so here's a nice excuse I made up to justify my behavior". Sort of.

Re:Dirty downside of 'return to office'; ending WFH could ma... by _Algernon_ on Friday August 18, 2023 @04:36PM (#37181758)
Not having kids is doing something. It removes a lifetime of future carbon emissions, and that is ignoring any further ancestors.

You may disagree that that is the right path to take for personal reasons and that's fine, but an average middle class person who doesn't have kids has likely saved more carbon emissions than any other realistic action (eg. not flying, vegetarian/vegan diet, using paper straws). Don't discredit that.

Re:Dirty downside of 'return to office'; ending WFH could ma... by goatlover on Friday August 18, 2023 @04:49PM (#37181922)
I discredit all such talk as unrealistic and meaningless. People will have kids if they want kids, and if they don't want kids, they'll use that to say they're saving the environment. Same with eating meat, going on vacations, etc.

None of that is going to solve the problem anyway.

Re:Dirty downside of 'return to office'; ending WFH could ma... by ChatGTP on Friday August 18, 2023 @05:14PM (#37182203)
Not having kids and not using all the excess money to fly around the globe, drive cars, consume hardcore isn’t an improvement.

I’d say most childless adults I know are way more carbon intensive the me simply because they can do more.

Kids are actually economical. They’re light, don’t eat much, can be entertained by pretty simple means and because they constantly grow and everything needs to be changed over, second hand goods are so accessible, nearly everything we buy for them is secondhand, bikes, skateboards, clothes.

I honestly ride my bike with my kids everywhere and we have not used the aircon once this summer. I’d say my kid uses 1/20th the emissions of an average adult with no children.

Re:Dirty downside of 'return to office'; ending WFH could ma... by truculent on Saturday August 19, 2023 @05:09AM (#37186938)
If I’m responsible for my kids’ emissions, then my parents are responsible for mine. Emissions are no longer my problem!