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Re:ISPs complain that listing every fee is too hard, urge FC... by lostlogin on Tuesday August 15, 2023 @09:09PM (#37141540)
We have that system down here in New Zealand. However we have only two supermarket chains and a near monopoly for many consumer good and building supplies.

You can buy New Zealand produce around the world for less than it costs us in New Zealand. So going for a meal costs what it says on the menu and no more, but that cost is steep.

Re:ISPs complain that listing every fee is too hard, urge FC... by jackson1442 on Tuesday August 15, 2023 @10:17PM (#37142081)
I don’t think inclusive pricing and the cost of goods are necessarily linked, there are many other reasons goods and services could be more expensive in NZ.
Re:ISPs complain that listing every fee is too hard, urge FC... by lostlogin on Tuesday August 15, 2023 @10:36PM (#37142234)
Oh there are, rules around employees, consumer guarantees act, acc levies and various other things. But it seems unlikely that have just 2 food suppliers isn’t a root cause of food price issues.
Re:ISPs complain that listing every fee is too hard, urge FC... by lmpdev on Wednesday August 16, 2023 @04:00AM (#37144029)
Australian here

Isn't it mostly just economies of scale plus transport costs?

Or are our industrial relations laws really not as good?

Re:ISPs complain that listing every fee is too hard, urge FC... by lozenge on Wednesday August 16, 2023 @04:42AM (#37144338)
It's more about farming subsidies and tax levels. Some governments choose to make food cheap by encouraging overproduction.
Re:ISPs complain that listing every fee is too hard, urge FC... by Symbiote on Wednesday August 16, 2023 @07:08AM (#37145295)
Overproduction (by subsidy) is also very useful to cope with poor harvests, supply shortages due to wars etc.

Discussion on the European system for this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Common_Agricultural_Policy#Ove...

Re:ISPs complain that listing every fee is too hard, urge FC... by renonce on Tuesday August 15, 2023 @11:30PM (#37142555)
It looks like New Zealand charges a 15% VAT which is applied when New Zealand residents buy anything in Europe but not when New Zealand goods are exported, maybe that could be where the cost is?
Re:ISPs complain that listing every fee is too hard, urge FC... by lostlogin on Wednesday August 16, 2023 @12:37AM (#37142923)
There is VAT when you buy in the UK too though. New Zealanders pay 50-100% what those in the UK do for groceries, though this varies depending on how you measure or what you read.

https://simplenewzealand.com/cost-of-living-in-new-zealand-v....

https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/money/2021/09/shopper-s-recei...

https://thespinoff.co.nz/money/12-08-2021/how-do-nz-grocery-...