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Re:ISPs complain that listing every fee is too hard, urge FC... by 2023throwawayy on Tuesday August 15, 2023 @05:32PM (#37139545)
Please no.

I agree disruption in the space would be great, but don't let Amazon enter the ISP space. They have enough money, and power over the internet, as is.

I would have to think that would be an antitrust violation anyway.

Re:ISPs complain that listing every fee is too hard, urge FC... by belval on Tuesday August 15, 2023 @05:46PM (#37139676)
(I work at AWS)

I know this is close to whataboutism so I will try to choose my words carefully, but does Amazon really have that much power over the Internet? Realistically Amazon does not have a large advert network, footing in mobile, operating systems or web browsers?

They have some control in the form of AWS/Route 53 but that's a far cry from some larger DNS, domain registrar and CDN providers.

Not denying that they have a lot of money, but even when using that money to try and buy a user base (Alexa or Fire Tablet/TV) their success has been pretty limited overall.

Re:ISPs complain that listing every fee is too hard, urge FC... by thewildginger on Tuesday August 15, 2023 @06:31PM (#37140126)
When you control the most common way to buy and sell goods personal goods in the western world, you control a lot more than the internet. You control everything else.
Re:ISPs complain that listing every fee is too hard, urge FC... by krono on Tuesday August 15, 2023 @06:17PM (#37140006)
Without meaning to imply anything, I do suppose that powering much of the western internet does indeed equal having much power over the internet.
Re:ISPs complain that listing every fee is too hard, urge FC... by mr_toad on Tuesday August 15, 2023 @10:45PM (#37142297)
I think you overestimate how much of the internet runs on AWS. In terms of websites it’s less than 10%. Their share of the overall cloud is about 35%.
Re:ISPs complain that listing every fee is too hard, urge FC... by krono on Wednesday August 16, 2023 @08:36AM (#37146122)
Perhaps, but you'll have to admit those numbers are far from insignificant and on top of that represent things that are rather more impactful than mere personal blogs such as even critical Dutch government services.
Re:ISPs complain that listing every fee is too hard, urge FC... by KerrAvon on Tuesday August 15, 2023 @06:47PM (#37140277)
There are different forms of power. Pretend you could switch off AWS completely tomorrow. How much of the internet would disappear?
Re:ISPs complain that listing every fee is too hard, urge FC... by est31 on Tuesday August 15, 2023 @07:01PM (#37140425)
Comparing with Google isn't fair, they are probably the company with the single most power over the internet out there.
Re:ISPs complain that listing every fee is too hard, urge FC... by NickC25 on Tuesday August 15, 2023 @05:47PM (#37139696)
Seriously...don't give Bezos any ideas. Amazon in the ISP space would be an absolute disaster for consumers.
Re:ISPs complain that listing every fee is too hard, urge FC... by crazygringo on Tuesday August 15, 2023 @05:53PM (#37139755)
ISP's are already a disaster for consumers, with their totally deceptive pricing and invented fees.

Any new entrant can only increase competition and drive down prices.

Amazon as an ISP would be amazing for me. There's only one ISP that serves my neighborhood already, so any additional one would be a godsend.

If it's between no new ISP and a new Amazon ISP, I'll take Amazon any day of the week.

Re:ISPs complain that listing every fee is too hard, urge FC... by dotnet00 on Tuesday August 15, 2023 @07:47PM (#37140888)
Kind of like Google Fi in the mobile service provider space, anyone, even if someone as otherwise bad as Google or Amazon, can potentially disrupt things and improve prices and functionality.