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Re:Metro 2033 author Dmitry Glukhovsky sentenced to 8 years ... by riku_iki on Sunday August 13, 2023 @04:01PM (#37113802)
still a big hit on someone's life with being forced to abandon own country and go through all asylum and adaptation process somewhere else..
Re:Metro 2033 author Dmitry Glukhovsky sentenced to 8 years ... by jacquesm on Sunday August 13, 2023 @04:11PM (#37113899)
It beats the alternatives by a considerable distance.
Re:Metro 2033 author Dmitry Glukhovsky sentenced to 8 years ... by Eddygandr on Sunday August 13, 2023 @04:50PM (#37114308)
Oh of course, the title made me think he was already in some gulag somewhere though.
Re:Metro 2033 author Dmitry Glukhovsky sentenced to 8 years ... by ChrisMarshallNY on Sunday August 13, 2023 @06:37PM (#37115340)
The Russians are known to reach out, after dissidents living abroad, though.
Re:Metro 2033 author Dmitry Glukhovsky sentenced to 8 years ... by a_bonobo on Sunday August 13, 2023 @08:10PM (#37115971)
Some recent examples are a daylight shooting of a former Chechen Rebel commander in Berlin [1], Shapoval's death by carbomb in Kiyv [2], and of course, Litvinenko's Polonium poisoning in London [3]. Glukhovsky is wise in not announcing where he is.

[1] https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-53091298

[2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maksym_Shapoval

[3] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poisoning_of_Alexander_Litvine...

Re:Metro 2033 author Dmitry Glukhovsky sentenced to 8 years ... by resolutebat on Sunday August 13, 2023 @08:30PM (#37116112)
All true enough, but the Kremlin has bigger fish to fry than an indie games dev posting on Instagram.
Re:Metro 2033 author Dmitry Glukhovsky sentenced to 8 years ... by fl0ki on Sunday August 13, 2023 @08:42PM (#37116177)
He's an author, not a game dev. The game devs licensed his IP. All of this is explained in the article.

You might also be surprised to learn that Andrei Tarkovsky, director of the film Stalker (1979), didn't personally learn C++ and program S.T.A.L.K.E.R. (2007). Neither did Arkady and Boris Strugatsky who wrote the novel Roadside Picnic (1971) that all of these works, including Metro, are inspired by.

Re:Metro 2033 author Dmitry Glukhovsky sentenced to 8 years ... by jojobas on Sunday August 13, 2023 @08:45PM (#37116194)
These are not very recent and quite a few of the attacks went wrong with surviving victims and caught perpetrators.

The Russian omnipresent assassination machine is as much a myth as its invincible military.

That said, the West keeps playing as if there's no hostile power trying to infiltrate everything it can, 30-50yo Russian males with unexplained biography gaps or no background checks at all still allowed to travel freely, establish businesses with sketchy financials and so on.

Re:Metro 2033 author Dmitry Glukhovsky sentenced to 8 years ... by sharikous on Sunday August 13, 2023 @09:18PM (#37116372)
Apart from the fact that Russia is not the only hostile power trying to infiltrate Western organizations, I find the premise incredibly sexist, as if men are presumably more likely to be foreign agents than women.
Re:Metro 2033 author Dmitry Glukhovsky sentenced to 8 years ... by quibono on Sunday August 13, 2023 @09:23PM (#37116401)
I'm not sure we'll ever get any clear data on this but I don't think this is a very outlandish claim.
Re:Metro 2033 author Dmitry Glukhovsky sentenced to 8 years ... by jojobas on Sunday August 13, 2023 @10:00PM (#37116615)
Data from numerous defectors is clear enough, Russian secret services don't normally employ female officers for client-facing work.
Re:Metro 2033 author Dmitry Glukhovsky sentenced to 8 years ... by FreshStart on Monday August 14, 2023 @01:25AM (#37117762)
The had a gay couple though to murder scripal. As if the sex or gender mattered regarding this topic. Cheap discussion subversion by tankies running out of arguments.
Re:Metro 2033 author Dmitry Glukhovsky sentenced to 8 years ... by jojobas on Monday August 14, 2023 @01:57AM (#37117931)
That's a hoax, they were both identified as straight married men as far as we can tell. They also both fall into the "army officer recruited after few years of active duty" GRU pattern.

They got a prostitute the night before their botched Salisbury trip, rather than shag each other. The whole gay bit came from their Russian TV ruse appearance.

Re:Metro 2033 author Dmitry Glukhovsky sentenced to 8 years ... by red-iron-pine on Monday August 14, 2023 @09:31AM (#37120834)
if by 'client facing' you mean assassination then perhaps.

but plenty of not-men out there doing SVR work. Anna Chapman comes to mind, or the little lady who was making friends with the NRA and all of those GOP politicians...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anna_Chapman

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maria_Butina

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Illegals_Program

Re:Metro 2033 author Dmitry Glukhovsky sentenced to 8 years ... by jojobas on Monday August 14, 2023 @09:35PM (#37129107)
Chapman and Butina are by no means intelligence officers, they were assets with minimal training.

I'll grant you illegals in general, those are typically married couples.

Re:Metro 2033 author Dmitry Glukhovsky sentenced to 8 years ... by jojobas on Sunday August 13, 2023 @09:36PM (#37116472)
You'll find that all of Russian secret services are extremely sexist. GRU only recruits from commanding officers in active duty, and these are almost 100% male. FSB does use women, mostly for honeypot purposes.

And yes, I agree that Chinese nationals are to be treated with way more suspicion as well. Anyone with relatives in China can be pushed to do whatever CCP needs. Also everyone with official links to the CCP should be under 24/7 monitoring, something something "covert police stations" and Confucius Institute.

Re:Metro 2033 author Dmitry Glukhovsky sentenced to 8 years ... by ck2 on Monday August 14, 2023 @12:30AM (#37117471)
Where's that huge list of Russians that have mysteriously fallen to their death?

If I was Russian I'd never go above the 1st floor of any building, it would be ingrained in my culture.

Sometimes I think authoritarianism in the US can get pretty bad but then I read what goes on over there and I realize it's not even close.

Re:Metro 2033 author Dmitry Glukhovsky sentenced to 8 years ... by iavael on Wednesday August 23, 2023 @02:08AM (#37232368)
It’s much easier to just avoid anything even distantly related to politics. And that’s what actually ingrained in culture of most Russians.
Re:Metro 2033 author Dmitry Glukhovsky sentenced to 8 years ... by nine_k on Sunday August 13, 2023 @05:10PM (#37114534)
That big hit happened at the end of February 2022, not now, especially for males in the age range fit for military service.

For many, it happened in 2014 when the precursor of the current RU-UA war has started, with the (technically brilliant, admittedly) capture of Crimea, and the support of insurgency in western Ukraine.

Being a vocal critic of the Russian regime is and has been unsafe in Russia, for many years, and for obvious reasons. Look at the guy named Girkin [1]: a hugely prominent Russian nationalist and imperialist, who has actually fought on the Russian side in the RU-UA conflict, and only demanded more of the war, is under arrest. He happened to criticize the ineptitude of the Russian military too loudly.

[1]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Igor_Girkin

Re:Metro 2033 author Dmitry Glukhovsky sentenced to 8 years ... by riku_iki on Sunday August 13, 2023 @05:14PM (#37114573)
yes, and multiple opposition leaders been killed even before that, while west was paying hundreds billions to Putin for oil and gas.
Re:Metro 2033 author Dmitry Glukhovsky sentenced to 8 years ... by OfSanguineFire on Sunday August 13, 2023 @06:07PM (#37115043)
> He happened to criticize the ineptitude of the Russian military too loudly.

Girkin had criticized the military for over a year, and suffered no consequences. He is said to have protectors among the security services. His troubles started only after he called for a new president for Russia, someone other than Putin – in Russia you can criticize the boyars, but you can’t ever call for the tsar’s removal.

Re:Metro 2033 author Dmitry Glukhovsky sentenced to 8 years ... by pydry on Sunday August 13, 2023 @06:24PM (#37115211)
It's not exactly safe in Ukraine either. American blogger Gonzalo Lira is under arrest for essentially an identical crime, dubbed "infoterrorism".
Re:Metro 2033 author Dmitry Glukhovsky sentenced to 8 years ... by riku_iki on Sunday August 13, 2023 @06:32PM (#37115277)
> under arrest for essentially an identical crime

or very far from that

Re:Metro 2033 author Dmitry Glukhovsky sentenced to 8 years ... by _kbh_ on Sunday August 13, 2023 @06:45PM (#37115390)
> It's not exactly safe in Ukraine either. American blogger Gonzalo Lira is under arrest for essentially an identical crime, dubbed "infoterrorism".

Gonzalo Lira supports a lot of the same positions as Russian propaganda would like to promote.

I don’t know why anyone would expect him to remain free when he decided to stay in Ukraine after the invasion started when he continued to justify Russias brutal invasion of Ukraine.

He also said that he was fleeing the country too hungry after he got released on bail, so he clearly doesn’t make smart decisions.

Re:Metro 2033 author Dmitry Glukhovsky sentenced to 8 years ... by vorprokuror on Monday August 14, 2023 @12:43AM (#37117542)
Wow so jailing for the “wrong” opinion in the “rightful” country is ok, but jailing for the “right” opinion in the “evil” country is not? So broken argument
Re:Metro 2033 author Dmitry Glukhovsky sentenced to 8 years ... by qwytw on Monday August 14, 2023 @02:01AM (#37117961)
Yeah more or less. Just without the quotes..

I mean we don't really blame US or Britain for jailing openly (pro)Nazi propagandists operating inside their territories during WW2?

OTH few people are willing to justify Nazi Germany imprisoning/killing opposition activists in Germany.

Of course Ukraine is deeply flawed country in many ways (just like US/Britain/etc. were back then) that doesn't mean that the war itself is necessarily morally ambiguous or that Russia's action aren't wrong/evil.

Re:Metro 2033 author Dmitry Glukhovsky sentenced to 8 years ... by pydry on Monday August 14, 2023 @05:56AM (#37119197)
We should. Freedom of political speech either exists for everybody or you let the government - good or bad - carve out the chosen exceptions. There's a reason it was embedded in the American constitution.

>Of course Ukraine is deeply flawed country in many ways

The irony being that due to its history many of its flaws and values are very Russian in character. That includes imprisoning Lira for "informational terrorism".

I didn't realize that these Russian characteristics would be quite so popular on Hacker News though. Apparently freedom of speech isn't that important.

Re:Metro 2033 author Dmitry Glukhovsky sentenced to 8 years ... by jacquesm on Monday August 14, 2023 @08:52AM (#37120451)
Absolutists tend to run into the walls of reality sooner or later.

Equating squelching propagandists of the invaders of your country to limits on freedom of speech shows that you don't actually understand that freedom of speech is a right, but not an absolute one, merely a shorthand for saying that you can criticize the government without ending up in jail. And in that sense spreading propaganda for an active belligerent enemy goes well across the limits set on free speech because it falls under 'aiding and abetting the enemy'. At some point in the not so distant past that got you a cigarette and a bullet, in that order. Freedom of speech is very important, as is a sense of reality and proportionality.

Re:Metro 2033 author Dmitry Glukhovsky sentenced to 8 years ... by _kbh_ on Monday August 14, 2023 @04:08AM (#37118601)
> Wow so jailing for the “wrong” opinion in the “rightful” country is ok, but jailing for the “right” opinion in the “evil” country is not? So broken argument

Jailing a person who spreads the propaganda of the country that has invaded you, and also gives Russian intelligence the position of your military units?.

Absolutely the right thing to do.

Re:Metro 2033 author Dmitry Glukhovsky sentenced to 8 years ... by dralley on Sunday August 13, 2023 @06:58PM (#37115485)
You misspelled "sending pictures of Ukrainian military equipment to Russian intelligence"

As a sidenote, that dumbass was stupid enough to live-tweet his attempt to jump bail and illegally cross the border. But I would expect nothing less from someone who unironically went by the name "Coach Red Pill".

Re:Metro 2033 author Dmitry Glukhovsky sentenced to 8 years ... by pydry on Monday August 14, 2023 @06:00AM (#37119224)
Lira hasn't been accused of spying for Russia, just of being a propagandist, which he certainly was - exactly as Glukhovsky was accused of spouting Ukrainian propaganda by Russia.

Personally I'm quite attached to freedom of speech (defined as "I think people who espouse views I despise should be allowed to do so"), but I know that many people aren't and they are extremely happy with both Ukraine and the west aping Russia.

Re:Metro 2033 author Dmitry Glukhovsky sentenced to 8 years ... by hluska on Sunday August 13, 2023 @07:10PM (#37115560)
Lira (aka Coach Red Pill) believes that men shouldn’t date women over the age of 30 and that all women really want is family and subservience. When the war broke out, he started parroting Russian propaganda.

The comparison to Glukhovsky really doesn’t work.

Re:Metro 2033 author Dmitry Glukhovsky sentenced to 8 years ... by zarzavat on Sunday August 13, 2023 @08:46PM (#37116204)
> Lira (aka Coach Red Pill) believes that men shouldn’t date women over the age of 30 and that all women really want is family and subservience.

FWIW you can replace “Lira” with “The Amish” in this sentence and it’s still true. Hardly a justification for throwing someone in jail.

Leonardo di Caprio seems to believe at least the first half.

> When the war broke out, he started parroting Russian propaganda

This is more like it.

Re:Metro 2033 author Dmitry Glukhovsky sentenced to 8 years ... by pydry on Monday August 14, 2023 @06:06AM (#37119268)
Yes, the red-pill stuff is abhorrent.

Mao believed in freedom of political speech. For views he liked. Stalin believed in freedom of speech. For views he agreed with. If believe in freedom of speech you either believe in freedom of speech for views that you despise or you don't believe in freedom of speech at all.

It appears you don't believe in freedom of speech at all.

Re:Metro 2033 author Dmitry Glukhovsky sentenced to 8 years ... by TulliusCicero on Sunday August 13, 2023 @08:47PM (#37116205)
Justifying your current country being invaded and brutalized is actually pretty different from arguing against your current country invading and brutalizing others.
Re:Metro 2033 author Dmitry Glukhovsky sentenced to 8 years ... by depereo on Sunday August 13, 2023 @06:40PM (#37115358)
Did you mean 'support of insurgency' in eastern Ukraine?
Re:Metro 2033 author Dmitry Glukhovsky sentenced to 8 years ... by riku_iki on Sunday August 13, 2023 @06:49PM (#37115426)
support by shipping tanks and personal.
Re:Metro 2033 author Dmitry Glukhovsky sentenced to 8 years ... by nine_k on Sunday August 13, 2023 @08:01PM (#37115907)
Yes, a very material support.
Re:Metro 2033 author Dmitry Glukhovsky sentenced to 8 years ... by nine_k on Sunday August 13, 2023 @08:00PM (#37115897)
Eastern, of course; just a slip of thought.
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Re:Metro 2033 author Dmitry Glukhovsky sentenced to 8 years ... by some_random on Sunday August 13, 2023 @06:06PM (#37115030)
There is no UA murder list.
Re:Metro 2033 author Dmitry Glukhovsky sentenced to 8 years ... by pydry on Sunday August 13, 2023 @06:14PM (#37115095)
I think theyre referring to https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Myrotvorets

some of whom have been murdered shortly after appearing on the list.

Re:Metro 2033 author Dmitry Glukhovsky sentenced to 8 years ... by riku_iki on Sunday August 13, 2023 @06:17PM (#37115131)
there are thousands people on that list, many are participating in questionable activities, of course some got murdered, but majority just arrested and put to trial.
Re:Metro 2033 author Dmitry Glukhovsky sentenced to 8 years ... by qwytw on Monday August 14, 2023 @02:05AM (#37117979)
Isn't Yulia Tymoshenko supposedly on that list?

Yet not only she's still in parliament but she still running one of the opposition parties there.

Re:Metro 2033 author Dmitry Glukhovsky sentenced to 8 years ... by justsomehnguy on Sunday August 13, 2023 @06:11PM (#37115068)
[citation needed]
Re:Metro 2033 author Dmitry Glukhovsky sentenced to 8 years ... by riku_iki on Sunday August 13, 2023 @06:15PM (#37115105)
citation not usually needed for random fantasy in internet.

Person who made allegation is supposed to bring proof.