Re:US inflation means families are spending $709 more per mo...
by kec on Sunday August 13, 2023 @03:17PM
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Deflation means a dollar tomorrow is always worth more than a dollar today meaning a rational person should strive to spend as little money today as possible. This eventually locks the entire economy up into a death spiral.
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Re:US inflation means families are spending $709 more per mo...
by ZeroFries on Sunday August 13, 2023 @03:37PM
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Even with the prices of commodities falling, stock prices can still rise, and as long as this is higher than the deflationary rate, investing still beats hoarding.
Re:US inflation means families are spending $709 more per mo...
by grardb on Sunday August 13, 2023 @03:30PM
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I'm curious to know if this is a real phenomenon that has been observed. Would you be able to point me in the direction of resources to learn more about this?
The reason for my skepticism is that even without deflation, a dollar tomorrow is usually worth more than a dollar today, yet tons of people* don't save or invest much/any of their money, even if they're able to.
* I'm speaking from the perspective of an American FWIW.
Re:US inflation means families are spending $709 more per mo...
by jliptzin on Sunday August 13, 2023 @03:41PM
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A dollar tomorrow is worth less than it is today
Re:US inflation means families are spending $709 more per mo...
by karatinversion on Sunday August 13, 2023 @04:05PM
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Your local bank or credit union will trade your dollar today for more than a dollar tomorrow!
Re:US inflation means families are spending $709 more per mo...
by OrderlyTiamat on Monday August 14, 2023 @12:55AM
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And they will simply take your physical dollar and store it deeeep under the ground where no wild west thieves can steal it or even look at it, so that they can store it until tomorrow where it will be worth more!
Re:US inflation means families are spending $709 more per mo...
by almost_usual on Sunday August 13, 2023 @03:39PM
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Re:US inflation means families are spending $709 more per mo...
by nimbleplum40 on Sunday August 13, 2023 @03:38PM
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> even without deflation, a dollar tomorrow is usually worth more than a dollar today
No, that’s deflation.
If you’re talking about investing, that’s different. The dollar is still worth less on its own. It just made extra dollars in the meantime.
Re:US inflation means families are spending $709 more per mo...
by graton on Sunday August 13, 2023 @03:38PM
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Japan had deflation. Can search for information on that. Many articles out there about it.
Re:US inflation means families are spending $709 more per mo...
by WalterBright on Sunday August 13, 2023 @04:43PM
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> This eventually locks the entire economy up into a death spiral.
The US economy had zero net inflation from 1800 to 1914. No death spiral.
The whole "2% is good for the economy" is propaganda to hide the fact that deficit spending causes inflation and is a tax on the economy.
Re:US inflation means families are spending $709 more per mo...
by TMWNN on Sunday August 13, 2023 @05:35PM
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>The US economy had zero net inflation from 1800 to 1914. No death spiral.
I've heard that £1 was worth the same in 1914 as in 1614.
Re:US inflation means families are spending $709 more per mo...
by HDThoreaun on Monday August 14, 2023 @11:27AM
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The US economy was absolutely fucked for a large portion of that time period largely because of the lack of monetary policy. The economy has done much, much better since we introduced fiat.
Re:US inflation means families are spending $709 more per mo...
by WalterBright on Monday August 14, 2023 @12:28PM
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Milton Friedman in "Monetary History of the United States" shows that fluctuations in the money supply were significantly more pronounced after fiat money began. The fed's enlightened hand on the tiller simply isn't as good as the blind actions of the free market.
Re:US inflation means families are spending $709 more per mo...
by HDThoreaun on Monday August 14, 2023 @06:08PM
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fluctuations in the money supply are not necessarily a bad thing.
Re:US inflation means families are spending $709 more per mo...
by WalterBright on Monday August 14, 2023 @11:11PM
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If they have proved unable at smoothing the small fluctuations, how can they do better with the large ones? And they didn't - the Great Depression.