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Re:My $0->$100M->$0 in 5 years story by AndrewKemendo on Saturday August 12, 2023 @03:57PM (#37103687)
Said another way, America is the sandbox for the rich to experiment on the poor, with technology that may or may not be good for the poor but ultimately doesn’t matter because the ultimate winner is always the one funding them.

It’s the test and staging servers for global capitalism

Re:My $0->$100M->$0 in 5 years story by jamesaurichs on Saturday August 12, 2023 @04:04PM (#37103751)
Tesla creates American jobs for the poor to work in manufacturing

SpaceX creates aspiration for the poor

Google allows the poor to advertise their product to anyone in the world cheaply

Facebook allows the poor to market their product to anyone in the world cheaply

AirBnB allows the poor to live in an expensive city, cheaply

Stripe allows the poor to sell their product to anyone in the world cheaply

Re:My $0->$100M->$0 in 5 years story by croes on Saturday August 12, 2023 @05:16PM (#37104299)
And still people can't afford to buy house like their parents did.

Maybe the problem isn't jobs but wealth distribution.

Re:My $0->$100M->$0 in 5 years story by SideQuark on Sunday August 13, 2023 @09:45PM (#37116526)
People are buying vastly bigger houses than their parents did. Adjusted for inflation, and most importantly, for square footage, median US housing costs are quite flat. Last I ran the numbers, per sq foot, prices are slightly lower than in the past.

Run them yourself, then check back.

Re:My $0->$100M->$0 in 5 years story by ipaddr on Saturday August 12, 2023 @05:28PM (#37104400)
What poor person works for Telsa?

What poor person gets aspiration because of Spacex. A basketball player is cheaper and does a better job inspiring.

The poor cannot afford to run adwords campaigns and can't even get a credit card.

Facebooks ads even more expensive.

The poor are not looking for short term rentals and cannot afford to live in the most expensive cities using airbnb. They live in rundown rent controlled places.

Paypal allows the poor to buy/sell.

Re:My $0->$100M->$0 in 5 years story by theGnuMe on Saturday August 12, 2023 @10:10PM (#37105998)
You missed the AirBnB effect of driving rents up and kicking poor people out of apartments.
Re:My $0->$100M->$0 in 5 years story by dns_snek on Sunday August 13, 2023 @04:48AM (#37107944)
> SpaceX creates aspiration for the poor

> AirBnB allows the poor to live in an expensive city, cheaply

Yeah you're definitely trolling, not cool... or your definition of "the poor" includes people with net worth of $10M.

Re:My $0->$100M->$0 in 5 years story by opportune on Saturday August 12, 2023 @05:18PM (#37104312)
Those companies have generated hundreds of thousands of extremely high paying jobs because hundreds of millions of consumers/many businesses chose to give them money.
Re:My $0->$100M->$0 in 5 years story by AndrewKemendo on Saturday August 12, 2023 @05:39PM (#37104484)
“Sure we destroyed the earth, but a lot of shareholder value was created for a moment there”
Re:My $0->$100M->$0 in 5 years story by refulgentis on Saturday August 12, 2023 @05:44PM (#37104511)
That's a cute little quip but it's about climate change, not a complaint about the US having a relatively high amount of venture capital funding.
Re:My $0->$100M->$0 in 5 years story by opportune on Saturday August 12, 2023 @06:51PM (#37104945)
Tell me exactly how these companies are destroying the earth. Snark isn’t an argument

My point isn’t even about shareholder value. Both consumers and very many employees have benefitted from these companies’ existence.

Re:My $0->$100M->$0 in 5 years story by SideQuark on Sunday August 13, 2023 @05:43AM (#37108275)
The poor in America are richer than the poor in just about any other country. The US poverty line is around the top 15% of world incomes, and that's pre tax transfers. Post tax transfers puts them much higher.
Re:My $0->$100M->$0 in 5 years story by PhilipRoman on Sunday August 13, 2023 @08:48AM (#37109469)
But is that before or after adjusting for cost of living?
Re:My $0->$100M->$0 in 5 years story by SideQuark on Sunday August 13, 2023 @09:42PM (#37116507)
After. It's PPP adjusted, as all good economists would do.