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Re:Want employees to return to the office? Then give each on... by steveBK123 on Wednesday August 09, 2023 @11:50AM (#37064500)
Yes, even well paid worker bees are still worker bees.

The queen bee who owns a share of the hive, decides how many bees to hire/fire, where they work, when they work, what % of the honey to share with the worker bees, etc.. now thats a different class.

Re:Want employees to return to the office? Then give each on... by generic92034 on Wednesday August 09, 2023 @01:15PM (#37065759)
What about managers/trainers of sports teams, if the stars of the team get a significantly higher salary? The manager/trainer might order them around, but does that make them belonging to a higher class, even if they earn way less than their "subordinates"?
Re:Want employees to return to the office? Then give each on... by steveBK123 on Wednesday August 09, 2023 @01:35PM (#37066059)
you are misreading "owns a share of the hive, decides how many bees to hire/fire, where they work, when they work, what % of the honey to share with the worker bees"

Team managers/trainers do not meet most of those criteria. At most the GM meets the majority of them. Only the team owner would meet all the criteria.

Re:Want employees to return to the office? Then give each on... by vasco on Wednesday August 09, 2023 @03:26PM (#37067334)
What about all the trades people that own their own small businesses? Like some young guy with a grass mowing business?
Re:Want employees to return to the office? Then give each on... by brewdad on Wednesday August 09, 2023 @04:30PM (#37067969)
That hive is too small to matter. Kind of like I don't really concern myself with all of the wildlife in Australia that would like to eat me. It doesn't affect me in the least day to day.

Amazon was once a small business. It's possible to grow that hive but the vast majority get exterminated.

Re:Want employees to return to the office? Then give each on... by notfromhere on Wednesday August 09, 2023 @05:30PM (#37068719)
Tradespeople with businesses are still pretty much tradespeople. At a small business the owner is basically a foreman

It’s rare that those businesses scale to the point of where your role is purely abstract management layers removed from the front line workforce.

Re:Want employees to return to the office? Then give each on... by nkjnlknlk on Wednesday August 09, 2023 @01:48PM (#37066218)
Players have not been subordinate to managers (in most sports) for decades.