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Re:Ongoing compilation table of LK-99 reproduction claims by fnands on Monday August 07, 2023 @05:57AM (#37032390)
Hard to say. The samples that didn't achieve diamagnetism don't tell us much except that creating LK-99 is tricky, which is not a big deal.

If someone can show both diamagnetism and prove that it is not a superconductor then that would be pretty discouraging.

Re:Ongoing compilation table of LK-99 reproduction claims by stavros on Monday August 07, 2023 @05:59AM (#37032409)
Hm, but diamagnetism in itself doesn't mean that it's a superconductor, no? There are a few diamagnetic materials that aren't superconductors, AFAIK.
Re:Ongoing compilation table of LK-99 reproduction claims by deyiao on Monday August 07, 2023 @06:17AM (#37032526)
However, we have never seen a material with such strong diamagnetism that is not a superconductor
Re:Ongoing compilation table of LK-99 reproduction claims by stavros on Monday August 07, 2023 @06:22AM (#37032564)
Really? That's encouraging, thanks.
Re:Ongoing compilation table of LK-99 reproduction claims by og_kalu on Monday August 07, 2023 @03:47PM (#37039955)
Yes LK-99 if not a superconductor would be the strongest diamagnetic material by orders of magnitude.
Re:Ongoing compilation table of LK-99 reproduction claims by vintermann on Monday August 07, 2023 @06:57AM (#37032811)
And even if it turns out it isn't a superconductor, that's pretty cool in its own right, no? At least this layman would think so.

And it would go a way in explaining why so many take the claims seriously and try to replicate it, if we know there's something exciting going on either way.

Re:Ongoing compilation table of LK-99 reproduction claims by fnands on Monday August 07, 2023 @06:10AM (#37032486)
True, but what I meant was that the labs that couldn't replicate even diamagnetism clearly haven't created the same material, as the original LK-99 was shown to be diamagnetic.

If someone can show that it is diamagnetic and not superconducting then that could be evidence that they recreated the same material, but that it doesn't show superconductivity.

Re:Ongoing compilation table of LK-99 reproduction claims by stavros on Monday August 07, 2023 @06:23AM (#37032570)
That makes sense, thanks. So if the replication is not diamagnetic, it means that it's not LK-99, rather than that LK-99 is not diamagnetic itself, thanks.