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Re:Successful room temperature ambient-pressure magnetic lev... by Retric on Friday August 04, 2023 @02:52PM (#37004201)
Your right. I have read that human override is still mandatory at level 4.

However it looks like this just changed: https://www.nhtsa.gov/sites/nhtsa.gov/files/2022-03/Final-Ru...

“For vehicles designed to be solely operated by an ADS, manually operated driving controls are logically unnecessary.29 To account for this, the NPRM proposed a regulatory scheme in which the affected standards would not assume that a vehicle will always have a driver’s seat, a steering wheel and accompanying steering column, or just one front outboard passenger seating position.”

They are apparently allowing level 4 Taxi to be considered full ADS even if they have additional “Stowed controls” options.

Re:Successful room temperature ambient-pressure magnetic lev... by Dylan16807 on Friday August 04, 2023 @03:11PM (#37004456)
Glad they agree but I'd say the street legality of a vehicle is a separate issue from the self-driving level.
Re:Successful room temperature ambient-pressure magnetic lev... by Retric on Friday August 04, 2023 @06:14PM (#37006590)
These levels come from the US’s National Highway Traffic Safety Administration formal definition in 2013. It’s been updated a few times since then with SAE introducing an extra level in 2014, but the point was really a formal definition for regulation.

https://unece.org/DAM/trans/doc/2013/wp29grsp/WP.29-161-18e....