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Re:Successful room temperature ambient-pressure magnetic lev... by leptons on Friday August 04, 2023 @12:30AM (#36995497)
Not sure that AI chat bots are actually reasoning in any basic way, so much as they are filtering out noise and presenting an output that might satisfy the input, but it's often quite wrong. It's still more of a parlor trick than it is intelligence or reason.
Re:Successful room temperature ambient-pressure magnetic lev... by icapybara on Friday August 04, 2023 @01:05AM (#36995693)
> Not sure that AI chat bots are actually reasoning in any basic way, so much as they are filtering out noise and presenting an output that might satisfy the input

Not sure if there is a difference, for sufficiently abstract interpretations of “satisfy the input”

Re:Successful room temperature ambient-pressure magnetic lev... by LASR on Friday August 04, 2023 @01:27AM (#36995810)
There is no difference between simulated reasoning and reasoning.
Re:Successful room temperature ambient-pressure magnetic lev... by leptons on Friday August 04, 2023 @04:38AM (#36997171)
Definition of Reasoning: "the action of thinking about something in a logical, sensible way."

LLMs don't think, they extrapolate. They are a filter, not capable of thought or reason. You can't reason with an LLM but plenty of people have tried and it fooled them well enough.

Re:Successful room temperature ambient-pressure magnetic lev... by xkcd1963 on Friday August 04, 2023 @11:22AM (#37001268)
Totally! I'm aghasted of how many people think LLMs are capable of reasoning and thoughts.

They would argue "but brains are just that, a big filter".LLMs don't get even close to what unicelulars can handle, and they don't have a brain.