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Re:Google’s Plan to DRM the Web Goes Against Everything Goog... by zoom6628 on Thursday August 03, 2023 @02:48AM (#36982246)
I lived in china and put effort into de-googling my phone. Now I’m back in the open world and seems need do all over again.

Must be a biz opp to run a proxy that strips everything google from pages and web communications. I would pay a few $/month to not be farmed without consent.

Re:Google’s Plan to DRM the Web Goes Against Everything Goog... by stjohnswarts on Thursday August 03, 2023 @03:06AM (#36982367)
Options are Linux, and half broken "phone"

or Apple, the hardware is their profit center, as well as getting you to buy their software product, but your info isn't sold to 3rd parties (yet?)

or Google (circumvent some of it with firefox+adblock origin)

or just don't participate at all and get a flip burner.

Re:Google’s Plan to DRM the Web Goes Against Everything Goog... by Lev1a on Thursday August 03, 2023 @03:37AM (#36982558)
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Re:Google’s Plan to DRM the Web Goes Against Everything Goog... by barrotes on Thursday August 03, 2023 @04:53AM (#36983160)
Why 'half broken "phone"'? I used GrapheneOS for a while now, it works pretty well imho, the only problem I encountered till now is with maps. Finding a good and no-play-services maps app is a major issue. I use OsmAnd and it's quite mediocre compared to Play Services based options. With that (important) exception, I love the de-googled experience. The funny part is that to be de-googled the best choice is buying... a Google Pixel phone.
Re:Google’s Plan to DRM the Web Goes Against Everything Goog... by nicoco on Thursday August 03, 2023 @05:26AM (#36983402)
Try organic maps.
Re:Google’s Plan to DRM the Web Goes Against Everything Goog... by komali2 on Thursday August 03, 2023 @03:05AM (#36982360)
No need to proxy, you can just use https://brave.com/. Add a pihole to strip it from other devices and non-browser web traffic.
Re:Google’s Plan to DRM the Web Goes Against Everything Goog... by robin_reala on Thursday August 03, 2023 @03:14AM (#36982431)
Using a browser powered by Google’s technology stack is hardly deGoogling.
Re:Google’s Plan to DRM the Web Goes Against Everything Goog... by Timwi on Thursday August 03, 2023 @03:41AM (#36982590)
I don't really know much about how Brave is made, but you make it sound like they're using proprietary Google libraries, whereas I was under the impression that it was built from open-source software. If I'm right, the fact that this software originally came from Google is immaterial. If it's open source, Brave have full control over what it does and Google has zero.
Re:Google’s Plan to DRM the Web Goes Against Everything Goog... by robin_reala on Thursday August 03, 2023 @03:58AM (#36982706)
Brave uses Chromium: an open source project controlled by Google. They can submit patches back to Google, but if Google don’t want to take them they don’t have to integrate them. So that leaves Brave with three options: they can take Google’s Chromium as is and focus on the browser interface potentially flipping a few config switches, they can maintain their own set of patches and update over time, or they can fork and go it alone. So far they’re hovering between options one and two. The closer they get to three the less influence Google has but the more it costs Brave. At the moment they’re not being particularly courageous with reducing their Google alignment.
Re:Google’s Plan to DRM the Web Goes Against Everything Goog... by rejectfinite on Thursday August 03, 2023 @04:47AM (#36983113)
Still better then running straight Google Chrome.

Yes there is Firefox

But Brave still faster + own search engine

Re:Google’s Plan to DRM the Web Goes Against Everything Goog... by komali2 on Monday August 07, 2023 @03:18AM (#37031295)
You can view the brave browser repository yourself and see how they strip out a bunch of google crap: https://github.com/brave/brave-browser

If you don't trust them, you can compile it on your own.

Re:Google’s Plan to DRM the Web Goes Against Everything Goog... by youngtaff on Thursday August 03, 2023 @04:13AM (#36982829)
That would be the same Brave that was replacing ads on sites with their own ones?
Re:Google’s Plan to DRM the Web Goes Against Everything Goog... by WithinReason on Thursday August 03, 2023 @05:09AM (#36983276)
Nope, that never happened. You must be thinking of a different Brave browser.
Re:Google’s Plan to DRM the Web Goes Against Everything Goog... by ftaghn on Thursday August 03, 2023 @09:04AM (#36985343)
The problem with degoogling your phone in the west is that you may hit something that requires a non-rooted, pristine manufacturer provided rom to work.

In my case, my bank won't allow me to do online payments unless I validate the payments through a smartphone app as the 2fa. They do not do texting/sms based 2fa anymore.

The app will refuse to launch on a rooted phone or a custom rom. To me, this means a degoogled phone is absolutely unusable. I can't do without being able to use my credit card online.

This is in fact the sort of thing that will happen soon to the web if browser attestation becomes a thing. I can already see it coming, my bank rejecting logins from browsers that are not untempered, Google-provided.

Re:Google’s Plan to DRM the Web Goes Against Everything Goog... by rc_mob on Thursday August 03, 2023 @09:59AM (#36986027)
Authoritarianism is always creeping in. Its a force or evil that just never stops.