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Re:Observation of zero resistance above 100 K in Pb₁₀₋ₓCuₓ(P... by marcosdumay on Wednesday August 02, 2023 @11:10PM (#36980903)
It's not that extraordinary.

When people rush to replicate an experiment, everybody with a positive result has something to publish very quickly, and everybody with a negative result need a lot more time to be certain of it.

The kinds of results we are seeing are very hard to get by chance or due to bad experimental setup. But as a rule, we can't really differentiate a real thing from random noise in as little time as have passed.

Re:Observation of zero resistance above 100 K in Pb₁₀₋ₓCuₓ(P... by jseip on Thursday August 03, 2023 @12:59AM (#36981567)
"It's not that extraordinary."

How is that possibly true? LK-99 is already amongst the highest-temperature superconductors ever found (with that claim substantiated by at least two independent research teams as of this moment).

Re:Observation of zero resistance above 100 K in Pb₁₀₋ₓCuₓ(P... by whimsicalism on Thursday August 03, 2023 @01:05AM (#36981601)
I don't know if you work in this field, but you are putting way too much faith in what has been reported so far

People are way, way overconfident. Most people in the field would not be willing to put it at >50% odds at this point.

Re:Observation of zero resistance above 100 K in Pb₁₀₋ₓCuₓ(P... by eric_cc on Thursday August 03, 2023 @08:45AM (#36985114)
> Most people in the field would not be willing to put it at >50% odds at this point.

Do you have a source for this claim? It sounds like you just made it up.

Re:Observation of zero resistance above 100 K in Pb₁₀₋ₓCuₓ(P... by scarmig on Thursday August 03, 2023 @12:02PM (#36987703)
There's not going to be a poll on it or anything.

But, for what it's worth, as both an LK-99 optimist and as someone who has worked in the field and who still talks to people in it, most people in it seem to put the chances well below 50%.

Re:Observation of zero resistance above 100 K in Pb₁₀₋ₓCuₓ(P... by whimsicalism on Thursday August 03, 2023 @04:50PM (#36991662)
Of course not, there hasn’t been some survey of materials scientists on LK-99. This is my impression given my familiarity with the field
Re:Observation of zero resistance above 100 K in Pb₁₀₋ₓCuₓ(P... by marcosdumay on Thursday August 03, 2023 @01:44PM (#36989177)
If you push it, all the diamagnetism videos people published about reproducing it could be created by some weird and unlikely distribution of ferromagnetism on the sample. Except for the one that nobody knows where it comes from, that could easily be a fabrication.

That leaves the original, that is clearly diamagnetism, but still could be misleading in many ways.

We don't know how many labs are working on replicating this. So we have no idea how unlikely mistakes we should expect to see.

Re:Observation of zero resistance above 100 K in Pb₁₀₋ₓCuₓ(P... by singularity2001 on Thursday August 03, 2023 @01:55AM (#36981931)
So having a very strong diamagnet isn't interesting or is there still reason to even doubt that part?

Only one of the four labs completing replication claims to have found diamagnetism, but how could that video be explained otherwise?

Re:Observation of zero resistance above 100 K in Pb₁₀₋ₓCuₓ(P... by bluGill on Thursday August 03, 2023 @08:46AM (#36985130)
But that people have a positive result at all to publish is extraordinary. If this isn't a super conductor at this point that is probably even bigger than a superconductor - it means there is other physics we are not aware of to investigate.

At this point I've changed to this is probably true, but I don't know how big it is. (if it is true but impossible to produce at industrial scale it is not revolutionary)