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Re:US universities need to stop elitist discrimination that ... by serial_dev on Wednesday August 02, 2023 @09:48AM (#36970873)
The kind of people who can get into an Ivy League university would probably outperform the other group even without ever actually going to the university: statistically (stereotypically?), they come from a rich and stable background, have strong network of rich and influential friends and acquaintances already, have access to capital, they don't color outside the lines, and when they do, they know how to cover their a.. legally speaking, and of course, they are probably not dumb, either.

Yes, going to these universities probably makes some difference, but it probably doesn't explain all the difference, so if you take poor but talented kids and have them go to these universities, I expect the salary difference is much smaller.

Re:US universities need to stop elitist discrimination that ... by afavour on Wednesday August 02, 2023 @09:58AM (#36970994)
> Yes, going to these universities probably makes _some_ difference, but it probably doesn't explain all the difference, so if you take poor but talented kids and have them go to these universities, I expect the salary difference is much smaller.

Sure, we can debate the exact earnings multiplier endlessly but it still stands that attending an Ivy League institution is better than not attending one. And attendance of those institutions is artificially gated.

Re:US universities need to stop elitist discrimination that ... by injb on Wednesday August 02, 2023 @11:56AM (#36972636)
But this doesn't constitute gating of social mobility. The US has only one gatekeeper of social mobility: money. And elite universities are not gatekeepers of money.
Re:US universities need to stop elitist discrimination that ... by afavour on Wednesday August 02, 2023 @01:47PM (#36974289)
I don't understand the point. Elite universities lead to higher salaries (by whatever factor) which means... more money.
Re:US universities need to stop elitist discrimination that ... by injb on Wednesday August 02, 2023 @02:14PM (#36974689)
You don't understand that "leading to more money" isn't the same thing as "gatekeeping access to more money"?

There is more than one way to make more money.