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Re:Dear Websites, Stop Asking for Ransom Sign-Ups by Badumtss8 on Tuesday August 01, 2023 @08:12PM (#36965127)
Users have always paid upfront for software, until software companies with lots of capital started this non sense. All copies of Microsoft Office were paid upfront. Users are just reacting to what the software industry did.
Re:Dear Websites, Stop Asking for Ransom Sign-Ups by jj999 on Tuesday August 01, 2023 @08:27PM (#36965260)
Indie shareware vendors predate "software companies with lots of capital" by decades. The big fishes seldom innovate anything.
Re:Dear Websites, Stop Asking for Ransom Sign-Ups by TeMPOraL on Wednesday August 02, 2023 @02:56AM (#36967852)
Shareware is not SaaS/subscription-based software. That's the bad part, not "try before you buy".
Re:Dear Websites, Stop Asking for Ransom Sign-Ups by geraldwhen on Tuesday August 01, 2023 @08:27PM (#36965261)
Not really. There has always been shareware, aka trial demos.
Re:Dear Websites, Stop Asking for Ransom Sign-Ups by esafak on Tuesday August 01, 2023 @10:55PM (#36966438)
Those were only utilities and games, not your office software.
Re:Dear Websites, Stop Asking for Ransom Sign-Ups by kelnos on Tuesday August 01, 2023 @11:25PM (#36966617)
Fair, but I don't think this negates the overall point, that people actually paid for software, and it was usually a one-time fee (often with the choice to pay again later for upgrades, or continue to use the old version forever). The "try before you buy" and expiring nature of shareware was nearly always known at the time of download, before investing time in using the software.
Re:Dear Websites, Stop Asking for Ransom Sign-Ups by Dalewyn on Tuesday August 01, 2023 @08:20PM (#36965212)
No, the users definitely play a role here.

Remember how it became a meme to just pirate Adobe software because they were so bloody expensive? Well Adobe wants their earnings, regardless if their desire is justified, so Adobe and the rest of the industry changed gears to a model that greatly inhibits piracy and, at least in theory, reduces the upfront cost a customer has to pay in exchange for a higher cost over time.

Re:Dear Websites, Stop Asking for Ransom Sign-Ups by ljm on Tuesday August 01, 2023 @08:34PM (#36965329)
Adobe is basically a monopoly and it is well documented that they allowed piracy because it meant that the pirates would become dependent on their tools.

Doesn’t matter how you edited a photo technically, it is still photoshopped.

Re:Dear Websites, Stop Asking for Ransom Sign-Ups by TeMPOraL on Wednesday August 02, 2023 @03:03AM (#36967885)
Yup, same with Microsoft - they won the desktop OS and office productivity markets thanks, in big part, to their tacit approval of individual-level pirating of Windows and Office.