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Re:Oregon Decriminalized Hard Drugs by Aeolun on Tuesday August 01, 2023 @07:25PM (#36964692)
I’m kind of of the opinion that we shouldn’t hold addicts to account for their addictions. By the time they’re addicted they’re not rational actors any more.

By the same count we don’t judge the mentally unwell and children as if they’re well-functioning adults.

Re:Oregon Decriminalized Hard Drugs by lmm on Tuesday August 01, 2023 @07:32PM (#36964769)
OK, so what does that concretely mean as a policy? "Not judge", fine - does that mean no arrests, no involuntary holds, not touching them? We used to take the view that we could confine people for things that weren't their fault when there was an overwhelming public interest (e.g. people with infectious diseases).
Re:Oregon Decriminalized Hard Drugs by inferiorhuman on Tuesday August 01, 2023 @07:44PM (#36964873)

  By the same count we don’t judge the mentally unwell and children
  as if they’re well-functioning adults.
Sure we do (or we did up until recently). Bill Clinton famously presided over the execution of a man missing a chunk of his brain to appear tough on crime during his presidential campaign.
Re:Oregon Decriminalized Hard Drugs by caddemon on Wednesday August 02, 2023 @10:18AM (#36971248)
Children and those deemed mentally unwell in a legal sense lack various individual freedoms though. There's always some trade off.
Re:Oregon Decriminalized Hard Drugs by ali_m on Wednesday August 02, 2023 @11:57AM (#36972649)
I don't think it's that simple. No one acts 100% rationally all of the time. In this respect, addicts, children, and the mentally unwell differ from the rest of us by degree - they may have diminished responsibility for their own actions, but I don't think it makes sense to try to draw a sharp line where you're either responsible for your own actions or you're not. Recovery from addiction requires assuming responsibility for one's actions.