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Re:Help the Library of Congress Create Games That Improve Pu... by golergka on Tuesday August 01, 2023 @06:00AM (#36954237)
You are on an internet forum. You are attempting to describe a very complex societal issue in very simple terms, using an analogy. Your description lefts out many important details and other present or potential problems, as you concentrate on a single issue. In your description, all democratic checks and balances are effectively portrayed as stupid and time-wasting. You end up with apologia for fascism.

Good luck.

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Re:Help the Library of Congress Create Games That Improve Pu... by robertlagrant on Tuesday August 01, 2023 @06:39AM (#36954453)
I don't understand; what single issue is it concentrating on?
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Re:Help the Library of Congress Create Games That Improve Pu... by simple-thoughts on Tuesday August 01, 2023 @06:58AM (#36954559)
Most catastrophic thinking is related to climate change, though of course it could also be referring to the inevitable end of the solar system as the sun expands.
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Re:Help the Library of Congress Create Games That Improve Pu... by qwery on Tuesday August 01, 2023 @07:35AM (#36954770)
I thought most catastrophic thinking would be related to personal minutiae. That's why its "catastrophic thinking". Changes to the global climate and the systemic and societal upheaval in response to those changes are significant.
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Re:Help the Library of Congress Create Games That Improve Pu... by yitianjian on Tuesday August 01, 2023 @09:02AM (#36955407)
Could be just the general deadlock and inability to come to consensus about any long term future threats. Could be AI, climate change, housing crisis, China, etc. But you’re right, likely climate change.
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Re:Help the Library of Congress Create Games That Improve Pu... by concordDance on Tuesday August 01, 2023 @06:26AM (#36954380)
Not fascism, dictatorship/monarchy maybe.
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Re:Help the Library of Congress Create Games That Improve Pu... by iLoveOncall on Tuesday August 01, 2023 @07:37AM (#36954778)
You could have just said you don't believe in climate change buddy.
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Re:Help the Library of Congress Create Games That Improve Pu... by golergka on Tuesday August 01, 2023 @08:00AM (#36954909)
The fact that you are feeling confident making such assumption just because I disapproved an ship-gaining-water analogy is exactly the problem with public discourse I wanted to highlight.
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Re:Help the Library of Congress Create Games That Improve Pu... by komali2 on Tuesday August 01, 2023 @08:41AM (#36955235)
In the USA, isn't it the fascists and proto-fascists that are the ones denying climate change? I don't think there's any ecofascism movement there at all.
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Re:Help the Library of Congress Create Games That Improve Pu... by golergka on Tuesday August 01, 2023 @08:46AM (#36955272)
You seem to have an assumption that there's only one side who employs totalitarian tactics and not both of them?
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Re:Help the Library of Congress Create Games That Improve Pu... by Aunche on Tuesday August 01, 2023 @09:15AM (#36955543)
The premise of this ship analogy seems to be that most people are too idiotic to make large-scale decisions and that the people who agree with OP should be in charge of everything.
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Re:Help the Library of Congress Create Games That Improve Pu... by komali2 on Tuesday August 01, 2023 @09:53AM (#36955973)
Ah, I can see it. I feel like it's more a criticism specifically of US civics (a direct shot at the supreme court for example) and US anti-intellectualism (some of the passengers believe the boat isn't sinking at all), but pulling back from that context and I see how it could be seen as apologia for various forms of nonrepresentative government.
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Re:Help the Library of Congress Create Games That Improve Pu... by Aunche on Tuesday August 01, 2023 @10:43AM (#36956581)
Right. A operating a ship is a terrible analogy to operating a society because it's primarily a technical operation that requires leadership to make split second decisions that everyone follows. Obviously, a Supreme Court is worse than useless in such a context.
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