CloudFlares last Warrant Canary was published over a year ago

Re:CloudFlares last Warrant Canary was published over a year... by entriesfull on Sunday July 30, 2023 @11:01PM (#36938372)

So what's stopping these people that claim to be so righteous by using canaries from lying to you? Anyhow the ISPs and internet backbones are all tapped as many whistle-blowers have already revealed.

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Re:CloudFlares last Warrant Canary was published over a year... by nepthar on Sunday July 30, 2023 @11:13PM (#36938433)

Sorry, I must have missed the claim of righteousness in the canary. Can you point me to it?

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Re:CloudFlares last Warrant Canary was published over a year... by JHorse on Sunday July 30, 2023 @11:04PM (#36938386)

Nothing is stopping them from lying.

Signaling that their infrastructure has been compromised is kind of a weird lie for them to make though...

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Re:CloudFlares last Warrant Canary was published over a year... by eastdakota on Monday July 31, 2023 @03:02AM (#36939574)

The SEC could throw me in jail. And, sure, you could believe that the FBI or whoever could tell the SEC what to do. We have European and Asian investors too, so their financial regulators could also sue me personally for lying. Perhaps the FBI/CIA/NSA control them too? Gets tricky to believe: the bigger the conspiracy the faster it falls apart. It's really, really hard to be part of some grand conspiracy as a public company.

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Re:CloudFlares last Warrant Canary was published over a year... by pleoxy on Monday July 31, 2023 @09:19AM (#36942068)

> It's really, really hard to be part of some grand conspiracy as a public company.

No it's not. Twitter and Facebook have had defacto government censorship collusion, as suspected by the paranoid.

For years and years it was dismissed as conspiracy, but clear evidence has now come out that it was happening in these public companies.

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Re:CloudFlares last Warrant Canary was published over a year... by 542354234235 on Monday July 31, 2023 @09:46AM (#36942376)

>clear evidence has now come out

Source?

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Re:CloudFlares last Warrant Canary was published over a year... by pleoxy on Monday July 31, 2023 @11:55AM (#36944558)

Twitterfiles, various publications on government access to Facebook takedown portal.

Including on this platform...

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=33418284

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Re:CloudFlares last Warrant Canary was published over a year... by stubish on Monday July 31, 2023 @12:19AM (#36938768)

Nothing stops anyone from lying to you. In this case it would be considered fraud if the lie was discovered or leaked. Which is one of the rationales on why courts cannot compel a company to lie and post false warrant canaries, because it would incriminate them.

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Re:CloudFlares last Warrant Canary was published over a year... by flangola7 on Monday July 31, 2023 @01:04AM (#36938989)

Courts absolutely can and do compel companies to maintain warrant canaries.

Fraud? Fraud against who? For what damages?

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Re:CloudFlares last Warrant Canary was published over a year... by greyface- on Monday July 31, 2023 @01:27AM (#36939101)

> Courts absolutely can and do compel companies to maintain warrant canaries.

Can you please cite one example of a court compelling the maintenance of a warrant canary?

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Re:CloudFlares last Warrant Canary was published over a year... by stubish on Monday July 31, 2023 @09:08AM (#36941971)

Fraud against paying customers, if they can demonstrate they wouldn't have paid if the company didn't lie. Also competitors if they can demonstrate they lost business due to the lie.

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