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Re:Why Insect Memories May Not Survive Metamorphosis by chrisco255 on Saturday July 29, 2023 @10:29AM (#36920663)
Frogs go through this process too though, and they don't have wings.
Re:Why Insect Memories May Not Survive Metamorphosis by wonderwonder on Saturday July 29, 2023 @10:38AM (#36920746)
Frogs are strange too, but not as odd as insects at least to me. Frogs almost seem to just pause growth and then resume it. Definitely interesting as well though.
Re:Why Insect Memories May Not Survive Metamorphosis by afavour on Saturday July 29, 2023 @03:27PM (#36923625)
> pause growth and then resume it

Which shouldn’t feel so alien to us because human childhoods are a period of much slower growth than you see in other animals. Not a pause but still. IIRC it’s speculated that slowed growth is to give time for the brain to mature and to learn but either way it’s interesting to think about. If we grew the way dogs and cows to we’d be fully grown by around 10 years old.

Re:Why Insect Memories May Not Survive Metamorphosis by wonderwonder on Saturday July 29, 2023 @04:14PM (#36924089)
You are right, and I am hard pressed to think of anything scarier than a pack 10 year olds with the strength of a man. Society may have taken an interesting direction.
Re:Why Insect Memories May Not Survive Metamorphosis by simonh on Saturday July 29, 2023 @11:14AM (#36921066)
Sure, the reasons why some creatures evolved this sort of behaviour could be different to others. I was specifically talking about Endopterygota.
Re:Why Insect Memories May Not Survive Metamorphosis by Earw0rm on Saturday July 29, 2023 @11:41AM (#36921328)
Not entirely - they change shape certainly, but don't encapsulate and rework almost their entire organ system to do so. Insect metamorphosis is far more drastic.
Re:Why Insect Memories May Not Survive Metamorphosis by Tagbert on Saturday July 29, 2023 @03:21PM (#36923561)
Frogs seem to have a delayed Ontogeny, too, but the restructuring is much less drastic than insects.

Vertebrates go through several stages in their development while in the egg (or placental sack, which stands in for the egg). The develop a head, spine, and tail initially. Then they add front limbs and finally rear limbs. Frogs hatch from their eggs prior to the limb development stage and retain that neotenous legless form while tadpoles. They are essentially hatched as embryos and don’t assume their adult form until later.