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Re:Not paying electricity for an entire year with Tesla Sola... by jdjdjdhhd on Saturday July 29, 2023 @10:23AM (#36920610)
How many years before you pay off your roof and when will it need to be replaced?
Re:Not paying electricity for an entire year with Tesla Sola... by mikequinlan on Saturday July 29, 2023 @10:27AM (#36920646)
If you watch the video, 9.6 years to payoff and 25 years to replacement in this particular case.
Re:Not paying electricity for an entire year with Tesla Sola... by melling on Saturday July 29, 2023 @10:44AM (#36920807)
And I imagine 25 years from now, the new solar roof be cheaper and more efficient.
Re:Not paying electricity for an entire year with Tesla Sola... by backtoyoujim on Saturday July 29, 2023 @11:34AM (#36921261)
Prying the old tiles off of the ruins of an post-apocalyptic wasteland can be very cost efficient.
Re:Not paying electricity for an entire year with Tesla Sola... by wojciii on Saturday July 29, 2023 @12:34PM (#36921885)
It also makes sense to use freely available slave labour.
Re:Not paying electricity for an entire year with Tesla Sola... by ChemSpider on Saturday July 29, 2023 @11:54AM (#36921449)
25 years is just what they guarantee, it probably lasts much longer.

My solar roof (not Tesla, of course) is meanwhile 21 years old, and works almost like on day 1. Since I dont expect a sudden failure in 4 years, my guess it that it will last another 10-20 years.

Re:Not paying electricity for an entire year with Tesla Sola... by PaulDavisThe1st on Saturday July 29, 2023 @12:41PM (#36921953)
For the record, I had 4x some small panels (165W) from a reputable company that shall remain nameless. They had a 10 year warranty.

Turns out that (a) the 10 year warranty actually meant "generating at least 90% of rated capacity in full sun after 10 years, but pro-rated across 10 years if not" and (b) they fell under this level after less than 5 years.

Re:Not paying electricity for an entire year with Tesla Sola... by iforgotpassword on Saturday July 29, 2023 @01:06PM (#36922256)
This is what I'm curious about. There seem to be really large differences between panels. Got two 150W panels for 78€ each this year. Peak output so far was around 240W, if performance stays like that for about five years I might break even in about 5 years for the full setup.
Re:Not paying electricity for an entire year with Tesla Sola... by itsoktocry on Saturday July 29, 2023 @12:40PM (#36921951)
What leads you to believe a solar roof will last "much longer" than 25 years?

>Since I dont expect a sudden failure in 4 years, my guess it that it will last another 10-20 years.

Oh, you're just guessing.

Re:Not paying electricity for an entire year with Tesla Sola... by phyzome on Saturday July 29, 2023 @01:01PM (#36922185)
Bear in mind that most residential roofs (of any sort) only last 10-20 years anyhow.
Re:Not paying electricity for an entire year with Tesla Sola... by trompetenaccoun on Saturday July 29, 2023 @12:08PM (#36921591)
This question can't really be answered without knowing the location. The differences can be significant.
Re:Not paying electricity for an entire year with Tesla Sola... by technotarek on Saturday July 29, 2023 @12:14PM (#36921663)
It really depends on where you live. Aside from the obvious electrical cost savings, you typically have state/federal incentives plus the opportunity to sell back excess power to the grid. In addition, and most importantly, there may be SREC markets that pay you to generate EVEN if you consume everything you produce. In Washington DC for example, my $30k traditional panel system should be paid off in about 5 years due to (ordered by magnitude): SREC sales, federal tax credits, excess power generation sold to the grid, electrical savings. Currently in year 3 and about 2/3 paid off.
Re:Not paying electricity for an entire year with Tesla Sola... by expertentipp on Saturday July 29, 2023 @12:37PM (#36921913)
I'm afraid that in my location by the time the roof pays off, the roof will be so badly polluted with pollen, moss, and residue from air pollution applied by the rain, that the fall in efficiency will render the entire system inoperable.
Re:Not paying electricity for an entire year with Tesla Sola... by gruez on Saturday July 29, 2023 @12:49PM (#36922045)
How hard is it to rise/wash it off?
Re:Not paying electricity for an entire year with Tesla Sola... by expertentipp on Saturday July 29, 2023 @01:11PM (#36922311)
Depends from the flora in the region. Once lived in a city district with trees producing sticky syrup (maple?) and yellow powder (birch?). This mixture was penetrating every aperture in e.g. a car. Went to car wash, the next day car was sticky again. Spruce and pine pollen result in a moss-like layer on the roof quite quickly.