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Re:Free prison phone calls boost family ties, rehabilitation by dragonwriter on Friday July 28, 2023 @05:45PM (#36913780)
> Racism was the historic angle-- but even if you target a black community and make felons of all the men, they would only comprise a minority of voters in a white district, and it just reduces the number of all eligible voters in an all-black district.

Reducing the number of voters by eliminating a disfavored class from representation while retaining the political power of apportionment that counts the disebfranchised citizens was the whole point of the 3/5 compromise, and mass criminalization plus felon disenfranchisement is its direct replacement.

Also, you maybe want to consider the effect on a mixed-race district where, say, a sufficient minority of whites are sympathetic to black interests that together they would, before selective disenfrnachisement, constitute a majority.

> Is this a local politics thing (school funding, etc.)?

That, too, but its largely a federal politics thing.

Re:Free prison phone calls boost family ties, rehabilitation by jstarfish on Friday July 28, 2023 @06:13PM (#36914060)
> Reducing the number of voters by eliminating a disfavored class from representation while retaining the political power of apportionment that counts the disebfranchised citizens was the whole point of the 3/5 compromise

Thanks-- I [think I] see where you're going but still don't get where this ends. You have a district with a minority of people who can't vote. Yet they are counted among the population.

This directly suppresses presidential votes, but what besides the House benefits from an inflated population of non-voters?

> you maybe want to consider the effect on a mixed-race district where, say, a sufficient minority of whites are sympathetic to black interests that together they would, before selective disenfrnachisement, constitute a majority.

The thought crossed my mind, but the only example I'm familiar with is Atlanta-- a few blue droplets on a red ocean, yet the state is currently represented by two Democratic senators, and the House is split. There's something weird about this but I'm not a political strategist enough to understand what's going on here. Is this where population matters-- density of the metro area outweighing the rest of the state?

Re:Free prison phone calls boost family ties, rehabilitation by dragonwriter on Friday July 28, 2023 @09:02PM (#36915623)
> This directly suppresses presidential votes, but what besides the House benefits from an inflated population of non-voters?

Presidential voting power (for the same reason as the House; well, really, as a direct consequence of apportionment of the House).

Re:Free prison phone calls boost family ties, rehabilitation by lostdog on Saturday July 29, 2023 @12:14AM (#36916834)
In the 2020 election in Georgia, 49.24% voted for one party and 49.49% voted for the other. The "blue droplets in a red ocean" is very obvious: the ocean has very few people.
Re:Free prison phone calls boost family ties, rehabilitation by dragonwriter on Saturday July 29, 2023 @11:30AM (#36921211)
> The thought crossed my mind, but the only example I'm familiar with is Atlanta-- a few blue droplets on a red ocean, yet the state is currently represented by two Democratic senators, and the House is split. There's something weird about this but I'm not a political strategist enough to understand what's going on here. Is this where population matters-- density of the metro area outweighing the rest of the state?

Yes, Atlanta metro is about 60% of the population of the state of Georgia.