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Re:Tor’s shadowy reputation will only end if we all use it by NoZebra120vClip on Friday July 28, 2023 @09:35AM (#36906561)
For what? What would I use it for?

Practically everything I do on the web involves authentication and a login and an identity. They're all US-based services. It's stuff that I use to manage my household, and finances. It's also social media stuff; some of it's pseudonymous, but I've got Facebook too.

These services factor in security hints such as device fingerprinting, and a consistent local IP address that belongs to an ISP account I pay for. That's as safe as it gets in this modern digital jungle.

I also use Chrome. I don't use Firefox. Don't try to get me using Firefox; it's incompatible with my workflow. I don't even have it installed to debug website errors. I also own a Chromebook and I do a lot on the Chromebook. 100% of my employment relies on it, and 20% of my personal use is there, too. TOR isn't compatible with ChromeOS (prove me wrong.)

The #1 error of TOR users is that they eventually reveal themselves online, by authenticating to some service, or by going to haunt specific websites or URLs they like. This is similar to people in Witness Protection or abuse victims who run away: they eventually contact family or friends and reveal personal details, and then they're re-victimized.

Sorry TOR, you're not for me.

Re:Tor’s shadowy reputation will only end if we all use it by ipaddr on Friday July 28, 2023 @09:50AM (#36906757)
https://www.google.com/amp/s/beebom.com/how-install-tor-brow...

If you reveal yourself by logging today none of your other sessions from yesterday or tomorrow will be revealed or connected.

Re:Tor’s shadowy reputation will only end if we all use it by andrewfurey2003 on Friday July 28, 2023 @09:50AM (#36906761)
Pls dont use chrome, theyre pushing drm on the internet
Re:Tor’s shadowy reputation will only end if we all use it by rightbyte on Friday July 28, 2023 @09:51AM (#36906770)
> TOR isn't compatible with ChromeOS (prove me wrong.)

It seems futile to use Tor when the OS itself is made by a notorious spyware vendor. But there are Tor browsers for Android that should work.

Re:Tor’s shadowy reputation will only end if we all use it by NoZebra120vClip on Friday July 28, 2023 @08:55PM (#36915588)
> notorious spyware vendor

So, like, Windows 10?

Re:Tor’s shadowy reputation will only end if we all use it by fsflover on Sunday July 30, 2023 @06:54AM (#36929865)
Yes, there is little difference from Windows.
Re:Tor’s shadowy reputation will only end if we all use it by trolan on Friday July 28, 2023 @09:52AM (#36906786)
Not trying to prove you wrong on this one, just a Chromebook fan myself. Have you tried/do you consider app support on Crostini/Linux? I haven't tested it, so unsure if it works, but all of the Linux programs I've installed have ran fine on a Chromebook.
Re:Tor’s shadowy reputation will only end if we all use it by zetta0 on Friday July 28, 2023 @09:56AM (#36906838)
A simple article on Chrome Unboxed suggests you can install Tor browser and have it work. I think there is less issues with TOR and more issues with you fundamentally not caring about privacy. Like most of the internet.
Re:Tor’s shadowy reputation will only end if we all use it by NoZebra120vClip on Friday July 28, 2023 @10:15AM (#36907120)
I care about privacy quite a bit, and I exercise good privacy practices, just not the same ones you seem to care about. Why judge me like that?
Re:Tor’s shadowy reputation will only end if we all use it by whelp_24 on Friday July 28, 2023 @11:24AM (#36908238)
Can a Chromebook be private? What are the good practices you follow?
Re:Tor’s shadowy reputation will only end if we all use it by NoZebra120vClip on Friday July 28, 2023 @11:39AM (#36908505)
What do you consider as "privacy"?
Re:Tor’s shadowy reputation will only end if we all use it by whelp_24 on Friday July 28, 2023 @12:38PM (#36909519)
Not being tracked? Like my activities ideally should only be know by me and those directly involved. Even better if only i know but that's impossible.
Re:Tor’s shadowy reputation will only end if we all use it by NoZebra120vClip on Friday July 28, 2023 @01:33PM (#36910322)
That's it? Privacy is just the lack of tracking? There are no other components to a private life?

Tracked by whom? Anyone? Is it OK if your parents track you? Does your government have a direct involvement in, say, public city streets?

Is this about technological tracking? What if you walk through a forest, and some stranger comes up behind your path, and uses natural evidence to find out something about you, and which way you went? How would you prevent that?

Re:Tor’s shadowy reputation will only end if we all use it by whelp_24 on Friday July 28, 2023 @01:51PM (#36910586)
I mean you should pursue the ideal, and you will be pretty good if you fail. I don't believe you really answered my original question but it is fine.
Re:Tor’s shadowy reputation will only end if we all use it by NoZebra120vClip on Friday July 28, 2023 @03:09PM (#36911742)
IMHO, your question was both rhetorical and open to interpretation, so at least I attempted to clarify the latter.
Re:Tor’s shadowy reputation will only end if we all use it by pessimizer on Friday July 28, 2023 @06:11PM (#36914047)
It really wasn't. The conversation was about computers, and you started talking about forests.
Re:Tor’s shadowy reputation will only end if we all use it by NoZebra120vClip on Friday July 28, 2023 @08:55PM (#36915584)
Re:Tor’s shadowy reputation will only end if we all use it by jakubwojciech on Friday July 28, 2023 @10:02AM (#36906921)
what does it mean that Firefox is incompatibile with your workflow? I am really curious about it
Re:Tor’s shadowy reputation will only end if we all use it by nottorp on Friday July 28, 2023 @10:25AM (#36907249)
> Don't try to get me using Firefox; it's incompatible with my workflow. I don't even have it installed to debug website errors.

Please tell us what sites you worked on so we Firefox users can avoid using them :)

Or they're so bad they wouldn't even load the entry page in FF?

Re:Tor’s shadowy reputation will only end if we all use it by Ycdr4thfdd on Friday July 28, 2023 @10:31AM (#36907322)
Sure, it's easiest if you stay on the happy path. You'll only regret that if you or what you want to do online falls out of favor of whomever is in power.
Re:Tor’s shadowy reputation will only end if we all use it by NoZebra120vClip on Friday July 28, 2023 @03:35PM (#36912114)
Why do you judge me so? What do you know of my regrets?

The only One who is in power will judge me justly, and I eagerly anticipate that with joy and thanksgiving.

Re:Tor’s shadowy reputation will only end if we all use it by fsflover on Friday July 28, 2023 @11:19AM (#36908119)
> Practically everything I do on the web involves authentication and a login and an identity.

How about using HN to make this comment? Even if you use your real name for it, you add some traffic to Tor, which helps.

Re:Tor’s shadowy reputation will only end if we all use it by NoZebra120vClip on Saturday July 29, 2023 @06:06PM (#36925195)
It's just amazing to see the tech support bros come out and I've got at least six replies telling me how I can use Tor when my OP listed fewer than half the reasons I won't use it, but tech support comes out and asks me if I tried rebooting my ideology and upgrading my politics to the latest.
Re:Tor’s shadowy reputation will only end if we all use it by whatscooking on Friday July 28, 2023 @10:01PM (#36916042)
Child porn