Re:Ask HN: Is the market bad, or am I having the worst luck ...
by a_t48 on Friday July 28, 2023 @02:30AM
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So much this - nearly every job I’ve gotten in tech has been due to knowing someone working there, or knowing someone who knows someone.
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Re:Ask HN: Is the market bad, or am I having the worst luck ...
by mattigames on Friday July 28, 2023 @03:59AM
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I have around 13 years in the business but I suck at socializing and I'm thankful this hasn't been the case for me, I would be broke if I depended on acquaintances to find work, instead I just have landed positions by applying to offers found at LinkedIn and elsewhere.
Re:Ask HN: Is the market bad, or am I having the worst luck ...
by JackFr on Friday July 28, 2023 @06:44AM
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You don’t need to socialize - a recruiter reached out to me and I let him know that I wasn’t in the market, but the guy who had sat next to me for 3 years (open plan offices FTW!) at my last job would be perfect. We weren’t terribly friendly but certainly got on professionally.
Re:Ask HN: Is the market bad, or am I having the worst luck ...
by tomp on Friday July 28, 2023 @04:55AM
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Interesting. Literally every job I’ve gotten was either through a recruiter or cold outreach.
Re:Ask HN: Is the market bad, or am I having the worst luck ...
by JackFr on Friday July 28, 2023 @06:39AM
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How far along are you in you’re career? The first 15 years I was recruiter or responding to ad, but after 20 mostly network.
Re:Ask HN: Is the market bad, or am I having the worst luck ...
by WarOnPrivacy on Friday July 28, 2023 @09:09AM
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> after 20 mostly network.
I suspect the importance of networking and the likelihood of ageism are often related.
Re:Ask HN: Is the market bad, or am I having the worst luck ...
by a_t48 on Friday July 28, 2023 @11:38AM
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It might also be related to industry size. I've done games and robotics - both relatively small industries compared to "web".
Re:Ask HN: Is the market bad, or am I having the worst luck ...
by tomp on Friday July 28, 2023 @10:02AM
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13 years so maybe
Re:Ask HN: Is the market bad, or am I having the worst luck ...
by deathanatos on Friday July 28, 2023 @11:31AM
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And I'm 2 cold outreach, 1 recruiter, 1 from network.
Everyone's experience is different?
Re:Ask HN: Is the market bad, or am I having the worst luck ...
by xlbuttplug2 on Friday July 28, 2023 @05:55AM
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The problem being that when you muck up the interview, you get outed as a quack to someone you know.
Re:Ask HN: Is the market bad, or am I having the worst luck ...
by jpadkins on Friday July 28, 2023 @06:22AM
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flopping interview != quack
Everyone knows that interviews have high false negative rates (depending on your hiring criteria). You have to mentally guard yourself that interviews are not a complete judgement of you; they are at best a small pinhole view into your capabilities.
Re:Ask HN: Is the market bad, or am I having the worst luck ...
by bdcravens on Friday July 28, 2023 @09:45AM
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Early in my career I was an ace at learning just enough to talk the talk in an interview (I was playing the risky game that I'd have the chops to learn the skills when I needed them, which thankfully I always did)
Re:Ask HN: Is the market bad, or am I having the worst luck ...
by disgruntledphd2 on Friday July 28, 2023 @01:47PM
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I had a boss who was incredibly good at this strategy. She would take the time between the interview and job start to learn what she needed to know.
Re:Ask HN: Is the market bad, or am I having the worst luck ...
by WarOnPrivacy on Friday July 28, 2023 @09:15AM
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> The problem being that when you muck up the interview, you get outed as a quack to someone you know.
The downvotes you got were undeserved. For most job markets: If an ideal candidate is interview-disabled, their odds of being hired are dismal.
Re:Ask HN: Is the market bad, or am I having the worst luck ...
by a_t48 on Friday July 28, 2023 @11:36AM
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For me personally - if I refer someone and they mess up the interview, I wouldn't take it as them being a "quack". If I referred someone it's likely I thought they could do the job fine, it's just that they didn't do a great job convincing my coworkers - and that's okay.