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Re:Where Did Our Belief in Abundance Come From? by WalterBright on Thursday July 27, 2023 @12:45PM (#36896320)
Hunger, yes, famine, no. There's a huge difference in degree. I know it's popular these days to use extreme words trying to make a point, but it isn't acceptable in a serious discussion. Wikipedia did not say "famine".

> I've given a brief explanation twice already.

Sorry, it makes no sense. What makes food cheap is abundance, not scarcity. Do you really think that if the country was gripped by famine, that FDR would have gotten away with slaughtering millions of pigs and leaving the meat to rot?

Re:Where Did Our Belief in Abundance Come From? by webnrrd2k on Thursday July 27, 2023 @05:40PM (#36900519)
WalterBright: "The US was the first country to eliminate the specter of famine around 1800. Thanks to free markets."

It's delusional to argue that The Dust Bowl was a time of cheap and abundant food.

Re:Where Did Our Belief in Abundance Come From? by WalterBright on Friday July 28, 2023 @10:54AM (#36907670)
> You used the word famine earlier

I used it correctly, it comes from Eugene Weber's "The Western Tradition", cited earlier.

> It's delusional to argue that The Dust Bowl was a time of cheap and abundant food

I cited it. You've found no cites for famine.

Re:Where Did Our Belief in Abundance Come From? by jychang on Saturday July 29, 2023 @04:37AM (#36918192)
https://history.iowa.gov/history/education/educator-resource...

First google search result for dust bowl famine. Government websites explicitly mention “famine”. Is the Library of Congress a good enough source for you?