Boeing has now lost $1.1B on Starliner, with no crew flight in sight

Re:Boeing has now lost $1.1B on Starliner, with no crew flig... by jackmott42 on Wednesday July 26, 2023 @04:34PM (#36884562)

sane person here, I would only take Elon's claim that something would work seriously if it relied mostly on newtonian mechanics to verify.

which model S being good, falcon 9 working etc, that is all it takes. basic physics napkin math.

anything with nuance (self driving) or human emotions in play (twitter), and he is the same as any boomer uncle complaining about kids these days

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Re:Boeing has now lost $1.1B on Starliner, with no crew flig... by SEJeff on Wednesday July 26, 2023 @04:40PM (#36884671)

Right, and he ballparks 250-300T in expendable mode here:

https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1661441658473570304?s=46...

Raptor improved thrust:

https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1678276840740343808?s=46...

Raptor 2 improved thrust:

https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1657249739925258240?s=46...

https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1661441658473570304?s=46...

Love the guy or hate the guy, but on SpaceX numbers (other than timelines), he’s been spot on.

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Re:Boeing has now lost $1.1B on Starliner, with no crew flig... by Etherlord87 on Wednesday July 26, 2023 @05:06PM (#36885031)

> basic physics napkin math.

Exactly, it's not rocket science. Oh, wait, it actually is.

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Re:Boeing has now lost $1.1B on Starliner, with no crew flig... by jackmott42 on Wednesday July 26, 2023 @05:49PM (#36885595)

Right, and you can land on the moon with basic newtonian mechanics. The are millions of devils in the details but for a person to decide how big a rocket to build and whether it could land vertically after a payload of X that needs a delta-V of Y, its easy napkin math to prove feasibility.

Executing it is then one of the hardest things people can do but SpaceX had all the best people at the time.

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Re:Boeing has now lost $1.1B on Starliner, with no crew flig... by Etherlord87 on Friday August 04, 2023 @07:32AM (#36998484)

You can claim anything is easy this way. Just take the easiest subset of a problem, and show how easy it is. I find that to be a pointless argument.

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Re:Boeing has now lost $1.1B on Starliner, with no crew flig... by grecy on Wednesday July 26, 2023 @06:22PM (#36886015)

> That is all it takes. basic physics napkin math

And yet Tesla and SpaceX and now wiping the floor with their competitors.

If it was really so "basic", why didn't those other multi-billion dollar companies do what Tesla and SpaceX are doing?

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