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Re:Paul Graham Keynote at PyCon by AceJohnny2 on Friday March 09, 2012 @03:33PM (#3685800)
A nitpick:

don’t try to identify a precise thing in the future. better model: columbus. “there’s something west. i’ll sail westward”.

I bristle at seeing Colombus propped up as a model. The guy was wrong (he thought the earth was smaller than it actually was, so attempted to sail west as a shorter route to the East Indies), wrong (he discovered the Carribeans, not mainland America), wrong (he still thought he found the East Indies, i.e. south-east asia!).

But alas, actual truth carries less rhetorical power than popular myths.

Re:Paul Graham Keynote at PyCon by kennystone on Friday March 09, 2012 @03:38PM (#3685823)
You're missing it dude. Columbus' conclusion was wrong when he started, but he had the right instincts to start sailing. This is what PG is saying - you don't know the future, so start sailing in an interesting direction and maybe you'll find something big.
Re:Paul Graham Keynote at PyCon by l_subbu on Friday March 09, 2012 @06:57PM (#3686536)
Just curious...who funded Columbus? It's a dream of lot of people to sail in some interesting direction hoping to hit it big. I think it's important to have a vision (however approximate that might be). But not a lot of people can afford to sail towards that vision without caring to achieve shorter-term milestones. In the process though, you may learn something more about the reality that changes/influences your vision...
Re:Paul Graham Keynote at PyCon by AceJohnny2 on Friday March 09, 2012 @04:39PM (#3686083)
I see your (and PG's) point, and I think he tied it to a terrible example. Basically, Colombus won big despite being wrong on so many aspects. In truth he was just very (incredibly) lucky. Thus I take the point as "do something stupid, you might just get lucky on something unrelated!".

But I understand that PG's real point is "trust your instincts, don't listen to the naysayers, but adapt to the circumstances".

Re:Paul Graham Keynote at PyCon by saraid216 on Friday March 09, 2012 @06:59PM (#3686541)
I don't think it should be necessary to be right about a lot of aspects. Going out and discovering how thoroughly wrong you are is a huge achievement.
Re:Paul Graham Keynote at PyCon by jarek on Friday March 09, 2012 @07:29PM (#3686612)
Even better when your friends can arrange for you to get paid a couple million for that.
Re:Paul Graham Keynote at PyCon by rbanffy on Friday March 09, 2012 @06:15PM (#3686403)
With the extra benefit that had Colubus not stumbled upon an unknown continent, he would have died.

I don't think my job is anywhere as risky.

Re:Paul Graham Keynote at PyCon by pstuart on Friday March 09, 2012 @03:54PM (#3685880)
Something about a pivot in there too....
Re:Paul Graham Keynote at PyCon by spitfire on Friday March 09, 2012 @05:52PM (#3686344)
There are some things you can't say. I'm about to say one of them.

Paul Graham is now a pundit and member of wall st west (Silicon Valley). He has a vested interest in pimping his product - Young impressionable developers. You can take anything he says with an iceberg sized chunk of salt.

Re:Paul Graham Keynote at PyCon by gruseom on Friday March 09, 2012 @06:54PM (#3686525)
Actually, take away the loaded words ("pimping"?) and what are you saying? People have interests so one shouldn't believe everything? That's pretty thin.

It's clear what Paul's values are - he's been writing about them since long before YC. I wish someone like him had been saying such things back when I was a "young, impressionable developer".

Re:Paul Graham Keynote at PyCon by chernevik on Friday March 09, 2012 @05:04PM (#3686180)
If you build a warp drive to reach the unicorn herds of Rigel, will it matter if you discover Rigel doesn't have any unicorns?
Re:Paul Graham Keynote at PyCon by a_a_r_o_n on Friday March 09, 2012 @03:57PM (#3685896)
The guy was more right than the flat earthers, and his acting trumped any amount of right or wrong.
Re:Paul Graham Keynote at PyCon by jarek on Friday March 09, 2012 @04:06PM (#3685940)