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Re:Google’s nightmare “Web Integrity API” wants a DRM gateke... by benterix on Monday July 24, 2023 @06:27PM (#36855119)
Not until Mozilla gives in.
Re:Google’s nightmare “Web Integrity API” wants a DRM gateke... by hdjdndhfbrb on Monday July 24, 2023 @06:31PM (#36855165)
Where do you think Mozilla gets its funding from?
Re:Google’s nightmare “Web Integrity API” wants a DRM gateke... by hdjdndhfbrb on Monday July 24, 2023 @06:31PM (#36855170)
Capitulation in 3,2,1
Re:Google’s nightmare “Web Integrity API” wants a DRM gateke... by LispSporks22 on Monday July 24, 2023 @06:31PM (#36855169)
As I recall, Mozilla caved last time with EME so I would not count on it.
Re:Google’s nightmare “Web Integrity API” wants a DRM gateke... by JohnFen on Monday July 24, 2023 @06:43PM (#36855277)
Yeah, that was when I realized that Mozilla wasn't really able to stand up to the bad guys as much as we'd hope.
Re:Google’s nightmare “Web Integrity API” wants a DRM gateke... by jeroenhd on Monday July 24, 2023 @07:02PM (#36855441)
You can still disable EME if you don't want it. That's a lot harder to do on other browsers.

I would probably have dropped Firefox back then if it was the only browser that I couldn't watch Netflix in, and I wouldn't be the only one. I don't think Mozilla can bear the loss of userbase.

Re:Google’s nightmare “Web Integrity API” wants a DRM gateke... by JohnFen on Tuesday July 25, 2023 @10:46AM (#36863047)
Right. That's why Mozilla can't meaningfully stand up against these forces anymore. It's not that they don't want to, it's that they don't have the market strength.
Re:Google’s nightmare “Web Integrity API” wants a DRM gateke... by redeeman on Monday July 24, 2023 @07:09PM (#36855501)
thats because mozilla simply stopped having any interest in browsing whatsoever.

They now have an interest in limited edition color drops and with their bespoke charactaristic allowing users to select color that best resonates with them.

You and I, as mere mortals, may not know what this means, but rest assured, mozilla does.

Re:Google’s nightmare “Web Integrity API” wants a DRM gateke... by redeeman on Monday July 24, 2023 @08:20PM (#36856079)
to whomever downvoted this, you clearly need some more independent voices in your life, but fear not, Mozilla got you covered: https://blog.mozilla.org/en/products/firefox/firefox-news/in...
Re:Google’s nightmare “Web Integrity API” wants a DRM gateke... by animuchan on Tuesday July 25, 2023 @05:18AM (#36859864)
Wow! This is depressing.
Re:Google’s nightmare “Web Integrity API” wants a DRM gateke... by account42 on Wednesday July 26, 2023 @06:34AM (#36875418)
Re:Google’s nightmare “Web Integrity API” wants a DRM gateke... by blibble on Monday July 24, 2023 @06:35PM (#36855209)
no web attestation for them then

youtube, prime video, netflix, banking, github

none of that for firefox users

Re:Google’s nightmare “Web Integrity API” wants a DRM gateke... by exitheone on Monday July 24, 2023 @06:44PM (#36855289)
The market share of firefox is so low and there are already a ton of popular websites that don't work on firefox. Mozilla will very much be forced to follow along here.
Re:Google’s nightmare “Web Integrity API” wants a DRM gateke... by benterix on Tuesday July 25, 2023 @02:31AM (#36858714)
> there are already a ton of popular websites that don't work on firefox.

Like which one?

Re:Google’s nightmare “Web Integrity API” wants a DRM gateke... by exitheone on Tuesday July 25, 2023 @08:28AM (#36861259)
Re:Google’s nightmare “Web Integrity API” wants a DRM gateke... by kelnos on Monday July 24, 2023 @06:50PM (#36855348)
And if they don't give in, Firefox users will stop being able to access Google properties, and then probably others like video and music streaming sites, and possibly even the larger news outlets. Banking sites might get in on the action, being led to believe that doing so will increase security.
Re:Google’s nightmare “Web Integrity API” wants a DRM gateke... by doliveira on Monday July 24, 2023 @07:52PM (#36855848)
Even if they don't, a lot of websites are just breaking on Firefox. The development community decided they want a Chrome monoculture.
Re:Google’s nightmare “Web Integrity API” wants a DRM gateke... by dhx on Tuesday July 25, 2023 @12:58AM (#36858085)
Mozilla are proposing IPA[1] which is designed to track user interaction with ads and product marketing, and track any conversion that occurs (e.g. users end up purchasing something).

If you are shown a product ad whilst browsing searchengine.example and then later look up the product at reviews.example, then end up making a purchase at shop.example, your browser sends all of these events to an aggregation service that allows shop.example to understand (at least in aggregate, assuming you trust the cartel running the aggregation service) that you were exposed to their product at searchengine.example and further exposed to their product at reviews.example.

[1] https://github.com/patcg-individual-drafts/ipa/