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Re:With the 745-Mile Solid-State Battery, Toyota Just Became... by epolanski on Sunday July 23, 2023 @02:57PM (#36838494)
I don't believe this maintenance argument, maintenance on EVs is insanely more expensive when it comes to battery replacements. Replacing an entire engine on the average sedan is an insanely cheaper option. Even the Nissan Leaf's engine replacement is like 14k $, that's the cost of a new car ffs.
Re:With the 745-Mile Solid-State Battery, Toyota Just Became... by JoshTko on Sunday July 23, 2023 @03:17PM (#36838690)
By the time your battery needs replacement it will cost a fraction of what it costs today. Battery prices have been falling fast as the volume production of these batteries have scaled up.
Re:With the 745-Mile Solid-State Battery, Toyota Just Became... by _hypx on Sunday July 23, 2023 @05:11PM (#36839881)
There has been no evidence of this, not to mention people just get cars with even bigger batteries. It is likely to always be an expensive replacement problem.
Re:With the 745-Mile Solid-State Battery, Toyota Just Became... by rcMgD2BwE72F on Sunday July 23, 2023 @06:15PM (#36840435)
How many times an ICE has its engine replaced on average?

The capacity retention of a Tesla battery from a decade ago plateau at 88% after 200,000 miles. That's for nickel-based battery, and most OEMs are switching to iron-based (LFP) which degrade even less.

I bet that zero EV will have to replace their battery in the near future.

Re:With the 745-Mile Solid-State Battery, Toyota Just Became... by _hypx on Sunday July 23, 2023 @06:17PM (#36840460)
ICEs can be fixed. It's pretty rare to have a truly dead ICE. For non-luxury cars, even a replacement is no big deal.

Zero is a pretty low number. A lot of them will have to be replaced. Especially for commercial vehicles where they often drive 100k miles every year.

Re:With the 745-Mile Solid-State Battery, Toyota Just Became... by pornel on Sunday July 23, 2023 @06:33PM (#36840636)
This has already happened with Nissan Leaf. It debuted with 24kWh, and now you get 40kWh for the same price, and there's 60kWh option.
Re:With the 745-Mile Solid-State Battery, Toyota Just Became... by tooltalk on Wednesday July 26, 2023 @04:45AM (#36874754)
>> By the time your battery needs replacement it will cost a fraction of what it costs today<<

There is absolutely no guarantee that it would be the case. The cost of batteries is largely determined by raw materials such as lithium, nickel, etc, and the demand for those minerals will exceed that of supply for some foreseeable time -- at least not until 2030.

>> Battery prices have been falling fast as the volume production of these batteries have scaled up.<<

Yeah, that's only if you get a brand different battery with improved energy density and chemistry. Your EV is stuck with the same old efficient and expensive batteries from the date/year of purchase.