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Re:Remote Work to Wipe Out $800B from Office Values, McKinse... by jayski on Sunday July 23, 2023 @10:25AM (#36835585)
Not an expert but I've read it's not easy to add all the necessary plumbing to provide showers and toilets if you redistribute office space into apartments.

A lot of times office buildings will have one large bathroom per floor.

Re:Remote Work to Wipe Out $800B from Office Values, McKinse... by HWR_14 on Sunday July 23, 2023 @10:27AM (#36835607)
There was a time when many of us on this board lived in buildings without personal bathrooms and only shared facilities. Dorm style housing could work.
Re:Remote Work to Wipe Out $800B from Office Values, McKinse... by op00to on Sunday July 23, 2023 @11:30AM (#36836268)
For who?
Re:Remote Work to Wipe Out $800B from Office Values, McKinse... by navane on Sunday July 23, 2023 @12:06PM (#36836626)
For the Millennials with proper jobs that never could buy a house, still live at their parents, and are inclined to communal ideas that lower the impact of individuals on their environments.
Re:Remote Work to Wipe Out $800B from Office Values, McKinse... by zeroonetwothree on Sunday July 23, 2023 @11:46AM (#36836420)
Once you are 30+ and have a family it becomes much less acceptable
Re:Remote Work to Wipe Out $800B from Office Values, McKinse... by kadoban on Sunday July 23, 2023 @10:31AM (#36835646)
Is it easier than earning nothing because nobody is going to use the building otherwise?
Re:Remote Work to Wipe Out $800B from Office Values, McKinse... by simoncion on Sunday July 23, 2023 @11:38AM (#36836346)
That's the wrong question.

The right question is "Is it easier than tearing down the building and building a new one that's designed for residential use in the first place?".

Re:Remote Work to Wipe Out $800B from Office Values, McKinse... by colechristensen on Sunday July 23, 2023 @10:33AM (#36835679)
It's not easy but it's also just like an ordinary phase of construction. They have to strip it down and replumb it, which in construction also just looks like drilling big holes through the floor.

What they're saying is the buildout from commercial to apartments involves more work than the buildout from one commercial client to another.

Re:Remote Work to Wipe Out $800B from Office Values, McKinse... by baremetal on Sunday July 23, 2023 @10:59AM (#36835953)
Drilling big holes, cutting the slab etc.

Also if it is a tension slab you absolutely cannot cut into it.

Re:Remote Work to Wipe Out $800B from Office Values, McKinse... by anotherthrway on Sunday July 23, 2023 @10:48AM (#36835833)
Luxury conversions - 2 apts max per floor? — could address the single shared utility risers/core of the typical office building. Schematically: [ a | util | b ].

Malls are also on the table for conversions these days. That is a much simpler transformation.

Re:Remote Work to Wipe Out $800B from Office Values, McKinse... by claytonjy on Sunday July 23, 2023 @10:54AM (#36835903)
Why are malls simpler to transform? All the malls I'm familiar with have relatively few bathrooms per floor, and huge interiors (low wall:floor ratio) that would seem hard to slice up into apartments.
Re:Remote Work to Wipe Out $800B from Office Values, McKinse... by jnwatson on Sunday July 23, 2023 @11:11AM (#36836080)
It is far easier to add plumbing to the ground floor of a building. In fact everything is easier if you’re not 1000 feet in the air.
Re:Remote Work to Wipe Out $800B from Office Values, McKinse... by anotherthrway on Sunday July 23, 2023 @04:24PM (#36839454)
Was discussing the same with dad when walking through a nearly abandoned mall in MD a while ago. Think a sort of gated community - anchor stores can become things like WholeFoods. Reclaiming a ribbon of parking around the mall allows for creating a green zone around the mall and possibly even ‘backyard’ gardens. And as noted by others, it is far more trivial to add the necessary infrastructure to support housing. Natural light is another issue which can be addressed with minor alteration to the external facing walls of stores. Basically you can easily stamp out big studios, merge stores for n-bedrooms, and depending on the structure of the mall possibly even punch through floors for duplexes, etc. These will be luxury units. And the ‘food court’ etc. can form the core of the ‘village’.
Re:Remote Work to Wipe Out $800B from Office Values, McKinse... by Ekaros on Sunday July 23, 2023 @11:55AM (#36836500)
Don't offices have much more floor height than apartments? So just add stuff in the ceiling or raise the floor and run stuff under there.
Re:Remote Work to Wipe Out $800B from Office Values, McKinse... by supportengineer on Sunday July 23, 2023 @12:42PM (#36837033)
Plumbing and windows are too hard. So, let’s not do it.