The US' decisions in no way grant Russia the moral or legal right to invade Ukraine.

No one is arguing that.

I am countering the pro-Washington, pro-war talking point that USA-RF diplomacy isn't viable because Russia violated Budapest. Well, so did USA, before the Crimea crisis. Find a better excuse to undermine diplomacy and justify bloodshed.

You know I don't really care. I think your historical analysis is flawed. But I don't care. Fuck the US gov. Sure.

But Russia is the one launching a genocidal campaign, leveling cities, and posturing to intentionally cause a nuclear disaster at the largest nuclear plant in Europe. I don't think anyone should engage with them diplomatically until their government is completely reformed. Hundreds of thousands of people have been killed and wounded. Civilian targets are hit on a daily basis. They have lost the right to diplomacy. Any further tolerance of this country will lead to more instances of what we're experiencing now. Run the war to its conclusion when the government inevitably collapses.

I know your pro-war camp "doesn't really care" about the severe bloodshed and total destruction of Ukraine. Everything is hunky-dory "as long as Russians are being killed", to paraphrase prominent Senator Lindsey Graham. Anyways, this discussion clearly isn't going anywhere, much like Washington diplomacy.

You misunderstood. We don't care about your pathetic excuses for bloodshed and destruction. Day after day you keep reposting the same long-debunked conspiracy theories. For a long time, Russia's victims were seen as traumatized and overly paranoid for warning about Russia. Now the true face of Russia is for everyone to see. Bogged down in unwinnable war, it is now trying to starve the world in a temper tantrum.

Who is "we"? You are a new anonymous account that posts almost exclusively about Big Bad Russia on this tech forum. I'm genuinely interested in who this "we" is. Can you share or would you lose your so-called job?

The guys preparing to intentionally cause a nuclear disaster at the largest nuclear plant in Europe, committing genocide on an immense scale, and perpetuating an offensive invasion into Ukraine are indeed the big bads, yes.

You can't break HN's rules like this, and you've unfortunately been posting lots of flamewar comments lately. That's not cool, and we've had to warn you more than once in the past:

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=35843312 (May 2023)

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=30593145 (March 2022)

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=30128649 (Jan 2022)

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=29629671 (Dec 2021)

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