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Re:Hollywood Movie Aside, Just How Good a Physicist Was Oppe... by KeplerBoy on Friday July 21, 2023 @02:11AM (#36810546)
Guilty of being socialists?
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Re:Hollywood Movie Aside, Just How Good a Physicist Was Oppe... by dr_dshiv on Friday July 21, 2023 @03:09AM (#36810866)
Went through your list. I didn’t get the sense of deep belief in communism nor antiamericanism. There seemed to be other incentives. Is there a good example?
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Re:Hollywood Movie Aside, Just How Good a Physicist Was Oppe... by SideburnsOfDoom on Friday July 21, 2023 @03:21AM (#36810969)
Wikipedia isn't the right source for "the sense of deep belief", it's far too dry and factual for that.

The Rosenbergs were known as believers in Communism.

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Re:Hollywood Movie Aside, Just How Good a Physicist Was Oppe... by mablopoule on Friday July 21, 2023 @03:43AM (#36811104)
Not OP, but I would recommend on this subject a podcast I've talked about in a previous comment [1], about the life or Hoover and the red scare in light of declassified knowledge of soviet spies in the US.

[1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=36257604

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Re:Hollywood Movie Aside, Just How Good a Physicist Was Oppe... by lifeonlars on Friday July 21, 2023 @06:08AM (#36812046)
I don't think you studied either Klaus Fuchs or the Rosenbergs in much detail then. Whatever the merits of their actions or the cases against them, they were certainly dedicated Communists who did their best for a cause they believed in fervently.
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Re:Hollywood Movie Aside, Just How Good a Physicist Was Oppe... by dr_dshiv on Friday July 21, 2023 @01:02PM (#36816407)
I should have been clear — those were the 3
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Re:Hollywood Movie Aside, Just How Good a Physicist Was Oppe... by rurban on Friday July 21, 2023 @03:46AM (#36811136)
Even more they believed that the fascist had to be tamed. First the German fascists, but then the root of it all, the US fascists with their Hitler support and their genocidal anti-socialist world-domination program, bringing fascism to the whole world. I wouldn't call that betrayal, you could rather argue that the US fascists betrayed the oldest democracy.

Even Oppenheimer, who was a stance Anti-Stalinist and the liberal under the fascist security clique, had the very same view and motivation. Just from the far right.

https://www.osti.gov/opennet/manhattan-project-history/Event... names many more.

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Re:Hollywood Movie Aside, Just How Good a Physicist Was Oppe... by duped on Friday July 21, 2023 @06:45AM (#36812245)
Afaict none of those spies were caught during the first or second Red Scare
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Re:Hollywood Movie Aside, Just How Good a Physicist Was Oppe... by Fricken on Friday July 21, 2023 @10:02AM (#36813876)
Does the China Initiative count as a Red scare? It was recent. Didn't round up any spies either.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/China_Initiative

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Re:Hollywood Movie Aside, Just How Good a Physicist Was Oppe... by nemo44x on Friday July 21, 2023 @07:51AM (#36812750)
It’s amazing how many people don’t bother to take a critical eye towards the “red scare” and just accept what their teachers, the media, and Hollywood have to say about. Each of those institutions has no shortage of communist sympathizers. Ignoring the fact that there were Soviet sympathizers all over. Sometimes the disease is so bad you need to use harsh therapies to rid the organism of its morbidity.

To this day it is in our best interests to root out and discourage communists and adjacent from participating in our republic. Anything less undermines our natural rights to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness.

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