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Re:Carnegie Mellon, University of Pittsburgh end use of lega... by noobermin on Wednesday July 19, 2023 @12:19PM (#36788893)
Honestly, relying on donations doesn't seem tenable without discrimination. The only way out is to treat it as a public good and fund it as one.
Re:Carnegie Mellon, University of Pittsburgh end use of lega... by pirate787 on Wednesday July 19, 2023 @12:22PM (#36788935)
Carnegie Mellon is a private university, and obviously there's already a strong public commitment to college education through subsidizing the student directly.
Re:Carnegie Mellon, University of Pittsburgh end use of lega... by underlipton on Wednesday July 19, 2023 @12:49PM (#36789440)
It's a private university founded with the intent to be a public good. It exists ostensibly to be a counterweight to the ills brought about by the concentration of wealth and power under its founders, in recognition of their outsize influence on society.
Re:Carnegie Mellon, University of Pittsburgh end use of lega... by mason55 on Wednesday July 19, 2023 @12:26PM (#36789016)
I think the question is whether the donations create more resources than what is used up by a legacy admission.

For example, imagine I donate $1B to the university, with two stipulations. First, they admit my child to the CS program. Second, they use the money to perpetually expand the size of every incoming CS class by 10 students.

In that respect, the legacy admission is a net good. Yes, for four years there's a spot that's used up by my kid, but even during those four years there are 10 additional people got into the program who wouldn't have otherwise.

I realize it's not that easy, it doesn't work like that, and the size of classes at places like Harvard are not limited by the how much money Harvard has. But it seems like there could be ways to keep some kind of legacy admission program which also create a net good.

Maybe every legacy admission should be required to fund a perpetual scholarship for one financially disadvantaged student? That's both expensive enough to be rare and beneficial enough to be hard to argue with.

Re:Carnegie Mellon, University of Pittsburgh end use of lega... by gizmo686 on Wednesday July 19, 2023 @12:33PM (#36789156)
Why tie it to legacy though?

The university could just offer a secondary admissions pool with a higher tuiting cost.

Re:Carnegie Mellon, University of Pittsburgh end use of lega... by kansface on Wednesday July 19, 2023 @12:38PM (#36789237)
They could, but they make more money by keeping the clearing price unknown.
Re:Carnegie Mellon, University of Pittsburgh end use of lega... by lotsofpulp on Wednesday July 19, 2023 @12:38PM (#36789234)
Then your $1B is provably not a donation, and hence subject to taxes.
Re:Carnegie Mellon, University of Pittsburgh end use of lega... by lazyasciiart on Wednesday July 19, 2023 @01:26PM (#36790040)
It’s already not a donation if it is tied to a benefit to a specific person in your family.
Re:Carnegie Mellon, University of Pittsburgh end use of lega... by lotsofpulp on Wednesday July 19, 2023 @01:29PM (#36790084)
The “provably” in my comment is meant to indicate that people would actually be afraid of falsely claiming donations which are really payments to increase m chances of their kids’ admission, since they could be proven guilty of tax evasion.
Re:Carnegie Mellon, University of Pittsburgh end use of lega... by lisper on Wednesday July 19, 2023 @12:24PM (#36788967)
So... get rid of private universities entirely?

I'm sympathetic to your position, but that doesn't quite seem like the wisest course of action to me.