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Re:Netscape and Sun announce JavaScript (1995) by foobarian on Wednesday July 19, 2023 @11:48AM (#36788351)
https://stancarey.wordpress.com/2015/12/09/raising-the-quest...

"There was once a dream that was Rome. You could only whisper it. Anything more than a whisper and it would vanish, it was so fragile. And I fear that it will not survive the winter."

Re:Netscape and Sun announce JavaScript (1995) by andsoitis on Wednesday July 19, 2023 @02:00PM (#36790567)
Thanks for the illuminating explanation.

Sounds like I can blame whoever translated to English in a 1581 text of Aristotle’s Prior Analytics, the wrong usage of “beg”.

At the same time, I intend to use the phrase correctly in the future!

Re:Netscape and Sun announce JavaScript (1995) by foobarian on Wednesday July 19, 2023 @02:13PM (#36790770)
> At the same time, I intend to use the phrase correctly in the future!

These kinds of dual usages come up pretty often, but in that spectrum I find this one very interesting because it is somehow very good at scratching some sort of intellectual/elitist itch in all of us. Both usages are fine, but one is more rare (but not too rare) and "came first" so is ostensibly more "correct." Which makes it very satisfying to bring up in these kinds of conversations :-)

Re:Netscape and Sun announce JavaScript (1995) by olddustytrail on Wednesday July 19, 2023 @03:00PM (#36791511)
You did use it correctly.

Anyone arguing that you can't use words to mean what they obviously mean and that everyone takes them to mean, but instead must only use them to refer to obscure logical fallacies is clearly nuts and should be ignored.

Re:Netscape and Sun announce JavaScript (1995) by peterashford on Wednesday July 19, 2023 @11:59PM (#36796745)
it's not an obscure logical fallacy, it's very common indeed