News for hackers. Stuff that matters.
Re:the US economy and the EU were the same size in 2008, the... by nemo44x on Monday July 17, 2023 @10:01PM (#36766848)
More opportunity. More capacity to improve your lot in life. More luxury. More space. It goes on.

There’s a reason millions more people from the EU live in the USA than the other way. Or why there’s a line 100s of millions long to come to the USA.

Nowhere is perfect but as a world traveler I’d say the USA is pretty great. What I have found most interesting over the last 20 years is that the conversation has moved from USA/EU to USA/Asia. Europe has become lodged somewhere between that and Africa/South America but Euros haven’t noticed it yet. Business has.

Re:the US economy and the EU were the same size in 2008, the... by bjornasm on Monday July 17, 2023 @10:19PM (#36767003)
>There’s a reason millions more people from the EU live in the USA than the other way. Or why there’s a line 100s of millions long to come to the USA.

That the EU has 100million more inhabitants, a history of relocating to the US or american culture and language being extremely present all over western society?

>Nowhere is perfect but as a world traveler I’d say the USA is pretty great.

"Nothing is like home" - news at 11.

Re:the US economy and the EU were the same size in 2008, the... by nonethewiser on Monday July 17, 2023 @11:48PM (#36767587)
> a history of relocating to the US or american culture and language being extremely present all over western society?

Well these just reinforce his point

Re:the US economy and the EU were the same size in 2008, the... by Dylan16807 on Tuesday July 18, 2023 @12:03AM (#36767659)
This history suggests there was opportunity at one point, at least.

The culture/language being widespread doesn't say anything about the USA being better. How does that reinforce his point?

Re:the US economy and the EU were the same size in 2008, the... by ikekkdcjkfke on Tuesday July 18, 2023 @02:07AM (#36768471)
The startup culture started there
Re:the US economy and the EU were the same size in 2008, the... by ffhhttt on Tuesday July 18, 2023 @04:06AM (#36769304)
People still move there because it offers significantly better opportunities for most high-skilled people?
Re:the US economy and the EU were the same size in 2008, the... by Dylan16807 on Tuesday July 18, 2023 @04:15AM (#36769360)
You're adding new reasons. That's not relevant to what I'm saying.
Re:the US economy and the EU were the same size in 2008, the... by nemo44x on Tuesday July 18, 2023 @07:19AM (#36770583)
I think the history isn’t relative today. It’s skilled Euros moving to the USA. Not the “poor and tired”.

If you’re skilled/smart then the USA will offer a much higher quality of life. This is why these types of people move to the USA and Europe suffers from brain drain. (Hint - high taxes chase people away to better places!)

There are exceptions though! More Americans move to Norway than the other way. It’s a richer country so that makes sense.

But check out this article from today:

https://www.wsj.com/articles/europeans-poorer-inflation-econ...

Re:the US economy and the EU were the same size in 2008, the... by yieldcrv on Tuesday July 18, 2023 @02:53AM (#36768783)
The US and some European nations have equivalent levels of upwards mobility.

Its more of a matter of whether its popular to do culturally, there is also freedom of movement and trade between all the EU/EEA/EFTA nations. If your home country makes it hard to start a limited liability company, you can form one in the country+state that makes it easy, and transact and bank in your home country. Just like in the US.

and you should talk with different people in your travels. People comfortable in their developed nation are not trying to come to US and would be confused at the suggestion as they only focus on news about marginalized groups in the US, no different than an American would be confused about someone assuming they have a fondness for China before that American rattles off about a dozen civil rights things that wouldn't actually affect privileged people in their equivalent socioeconomic bracket there, as if it defines the whole country or a day to day experience.

its pretty easy to see through this conditioning: American exceptionalism relies upon being compared to the most mismanaged and authoritarian places in the world, it ignores the existence of developed nations with balanced budgets, social safety nets, with similar taxes.