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Re:the US economy and the EU were the same size in 2008, the... by FpUser on Monday July 17, 2023 @09:04PM (#36766422)
>"and if he wins then Eastern Europe is next in line"

I doubt Putin is suicidal. Eastern Europe is in NATO, hence protected.

Re:the US economy and the EU were the same size in 2008, the... by blibble on Monday July 17, 2023 @09:11PM (#36766495)
it'll never be so obvious that NATO can declare it as an attack

you've seen the playbook in ukraine twice now

there will be an russian speaking minority in estonia/lithuania/... that will that rebel against anti russian oppression, guerilla warfare against the authorities, then they'll hold an rigged referendum, then a decade later the Russian government will formally annex what they've effectively controlled for years

he won't send tanks across the border that will trigger Article 5

Re:the US economy and the EU were the same size in 2008, the... by FpUser on Monday July 17, 2023 @10:09PM (#36766922)
>"there will be an russian speaking minority in estonia/lithuania/... that will that rebel against anti russian oppression"

Well don't oppress them. Anyways in Ukraine Russian speakers are hardly the minority. In Baltic states however Russian speakers are true minority and do not matter much. They can't hold a referendum. Your logic does not make any sense to me.

Re:the US economy and the EU were the same size in 2008, the... by blibble on Monday July 17, 2023 @10:21PM (#36767020)
they're not oppressed, that's the point
Re:the US economy and the EU were the same size in 2008, the... by lisasays on Monday July 17, 2023 @11:00PM (#36767288)
In Ukraine Russian speakers are hardly the minority.

What's this supposed to mean?

Certainly it's not referring to the portion of native speakers.

Re:the US economy and the EU were the same size in 2008, the... by FpUser on Monday July 17, 2023 @11:52PM (#36767609)
Re:the US economy and the EU were the same size in 2008, the... by severino on Tuesday July 18, 2023 @03:02AM (#36768859)
> that will that rebel against anti russian oppression

So you mean it's OK to oppress people just because they are Russian, or speak Russian? And the bad guys are those against oppression?

Re:the US economy and the EU were the same size in 2008, the... by sharikous on Tuesday July 18, 2023 @05:47AM (#36769969)
Eh but Wagner is not the Russian army, right? They are an "independent contractor" after all. And Russian speaking minorities may "suddenly" decide to rebel. And NATO may be not so eager to activate article 5 since they are not suicidal too.

Long story short I am not sure NATO Eastern Europe is protected 100%. Luckily for now Putin cannot afford another front but there is already some saber rattling between Belarus and Poland and Wagner is in Belarus.