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Re:A surprisingly simple way to foil car thieves by sidewndr46 on Monday July 17, 2023 @12:24PM (#36760159)
isn't this just an absurdly complex re-imagining of the on/off switch? I've spoken to numerous people who either had their vehicle stolen or it was broken into. The ignition cylinder was damaged in the process. Rather than spend money replacing it they just wired in an on/off switch in a random place on the dash. The car got broken into again but was never stolen.
Re:A surprisingly simple way to foil car thieves by nso on Monday July 17, 2023 @12:32PM (#36760286)
I have an old beater. It cost me 2300 USD when I bought it. Last year the ignition cylinder broke. My friend is a mechanic and he told me he could replace the cylinder for 90 USD, or buy him a beer to just install a button. I now jokingly call my car a Tesla since it starts with a button (it also requires the key)
Re:A surprisingly simple way to foil car thieves by thatcat on Monday July 17, 2023 @12:41PM (#36760442)
Lol. I soldered in an alligator clip jumper wire for my friend to temporarily bypass the failing ignition switch and he left it like that, says he likes the sparking.
Re:A surprisingly simple way to foil car thieves by incahoots on Monday July 17, 2023 @12:39PM (#36760417)
The button was my go-to when I got a new car, I would defeat the lock cylinder without damaging the steering column, and place a button in a obscure spot to start my cars.
Re:A surprisingly simple way to foil car thieves by mavhc on Monday July 17, 2023 @12:39PM (#36760415)
Tesla cars don't need a button to start
Re:A surprisingly simple way to foil car thieves by _flux on Monday July 17, 2023 @04:14PM (#36763429)
The brake pedal is _almost_ like a button.
Re:A surprisingly simple way to foil car thieves by bookofjoe on Monday July 17, 2023 @01:30PM (#36761224)
Off topic: My first car was a 1966 white Buick Skylark convertible that I bought for $500 cash in the summer of 1976 in Los Angeles when I was 28 years old.

Prior to that I had lived in LA from 1966 on and got around on foot and on my bicycle and city buses.

I drove that giant Buick — I mean it was HUGE, both in terms of length and width as well as weight — for about five years, the final 2-3 of which featured a caved-in non-functional driver's side door resulting from having been T-boned by a little old lady who ran a stop sign.

No worries: I'd just hop over the side or use the passenger side door.

After the crash I never worried about theft.

Also, amusingly, when I was on freeways, cars in adjacent lanes would quickly move away.

Re:A surprisingly simple way to foil car thieves by constantly on Monday July 17, 2023 @12:27PM (#36760210)
Valets HATE this one weird trick
Re:A surprisingly simple way to foil car thieves by ghaff on Monday July 17, 2023 @12:32PM (#36760293)
I used to have a car that had a kill switch requiring the turn signal to be turned on or some such thing. It was periodically a pain with valets or parking garages where your car might need to be moved. I'd leave a big note but it was ignored about half the time.
Re:A surprisingly simple way to foil car thieves by zerd on Monday July 17, 2023 @12:40PM (#36760419)
A friend had a car that required that you hold a magnet at a very specific spot in the back of the arm rest to be able to start ignition. Don't think he ever tried to valet that.
Re:A surprisingly simple way to foil car thieves by progman32 on Monday July 17, 2023 @02:07PM (#36761803)
Had a valet ignore a huge, printed instruction taped over my steering wheel on how not to food my car (leave it running for at least 60 seconds). Sure enough, they flooded it really bad trying to start it over and over. Killed the battery. Never used a valet after that.
Re:A surprisingly simple way to foil car thieves by matsemann on Monday July 17, 2023 @01:05PM (#36760840)
Huh, never considered valet parking to actually be a real thing. Isn't it annoying having to wait for someone to drive your car? I'd almost pay more not to have to do it.
Re:A surprisingly simple way to foil car thieves by drw3 on Monday July 17, 2023 @01:49PM (#36761497)
It’s fairly common in the US at hotels and some parking garages, especially in bigger cities.

It can be nice if you’re in a hurry or worried about walking alone in a parking garage at night.

But yes, it can be annoying, especially because you’re expected to tip them in the US too.

Re:A surprisingly simple way to foil car thieves by elzbardico on Monday July 17, 2023 @01:56PM (#36761619)
Pal, I've seen wallet parking across several countries in the world. Latin American, Western, and Eastern Europe, I just got curious about where you live to never have seen it.

And to answer your question: No, valet parking is usually useful because the parking place is far from where you're going (usually a hotel or restaurant). Having the valet saves you the walk from the lot to the place where you're going. It is even more useful when it's raining and you're having a formal dinner.

The wait for getting the car back is also pretty short because someone radios a driver already in the parking lot to bring your car in most circumstances.

Re:A surprisingly simple way to foil car thieves by thomastjeffery on Monday July 17, 2023 @02:53PM (#36762410)
I suspect you are parking your wallet in the most tourist-equipped areas of each country you listed. I would bet that within a 5 mile radius of each, you could find 1,000 people who have never used valet parking in their lives.
Re:A surprisingly simple way to foil car thieves by Toutouxc on Monday July 17, 2023 @03:10PM (#36762615)
Not who you’re replying to, but I’m from the Czech Republic, have been driving for 10+ years, live in Prague (the capital), I have never even seen valet parking anywhere. Even the local Hilton hotel doesn’t have it.
Re:A surprisingly simple way to foil car thieves by matsemann on Monday July 17, 2023 @05:53PM (#36764596)
Norway. I guess the less denser cities I've lived (that were somewhat car dependent) it was never an issue just parking right outside. And in the city I now live (Oslo) I would never use a car to get to dinner anyways.
Re:A surprisingly simple way to foil car thieves by retzkek on Monday July 17, 2023 @01:57PM (#36761625)
Sometimes it's a lazy rich person tax, but sometimes it's required because there's limited parking, and the valets can jam the cars in double-parked (or more), since they can shuffle them around as needed.
Re:A surprisingly simple way to foil car thieves by r00fus on Monday July 17, 2023 @01:59PM (#36761657)
At my work at the time (pre-pandemic) we used to have an EV valet - attendant would take your car, park it and then move it to an EV spot when one opened up, then put it back into normal parking - you would get a text with the location on each move.

It was quite nice and let me focus on work instead of worrying about charging and only initial paperwork (we had QR stickers on the car and keychain QR).

That's about the only time I've used a valet regularly.

Re:A surprisingly simple way to foil car thieves by sidewndr46 on Monday July 17, 2023 @02:00PM (#36761678)
Most places that I have used a valet they had a number you could dial and they'd bring your car up for you then callback when it was ready.
Re:A surprisingly simple way to foil car thieves by ke88y on Monday July 17, 2023 @02:42PM (#36762268)
It's common in denser cities, primarily with two applications:

1. at parking garages so that cars can be double- or triple-parked. This is by far the most common use case for valets today. At these lots, you actually do have to pay more (or arrive early) for a spot that doesn't require valet parking.

2. at high-end restaurants or other similar venues where there is no immediately nearby parking and limited or no street parking. The valet drives the car to a lot or garage a few blocks away and returns it to you when they are done. You can almost always opt out of these, although you may or may not save money by doing so and at some places it can be worth it to just pay up and deal with the inconvienance because the nearest parking is a bit far.

I've also seen it as a weird status symbol thing in cases where it's entirely unnecessary, primarily used by people who have never had to put up with #1 or #2. Think up-scale hotels but located where parking is extremely ample. I think that only exists because there's a general impression outside of super-dense cities that valets are a "fancy" thing because they are only really common in "fancy big cities". (Which, to be fair, owning a car in midtown definitely makes a person fancy in some sense even if I'd never ency that person :p)

But actually, for the most part, valets are not a fancy optional service. They are mostly a non-optional service that you have to pay more or go to significant inconvenience to not use.

Re:A surprisingly simple way to foil car thieves by TRiG_Ireland on Monday July 17, 2023 @06:35PM (#36765018)
Simplest way to avoid using a valet service is probably to not turn up in a car.
Re:A surprisingly simple way to foil car thieves by ke88y on Monday July 17, 2023 @09:40PM (#36766684)
Well, yeah, I did say I don't envy the midtown car owner :)
Re:A surprisingly simple way to foil car thieves by constantly on Monday July 17, 2023 @03:03PM (#36762528)
Very common. My work in the big city used to require us to use it when driving to take advantage of commuter parking benefit for the other reasons mentioned. Also use it at shopping malls where the valet price is the same or substantially similar to regular parking.

Surprisingly many of them use a text system so you text them to the number they confirmed with like 10 minutes before you need your car and they have it waiting — very convenient.

Also use it at big events like operas or plays or whatever where parking is awful but valet, despite being a little expensive, puts you right up at the front door when walking in and then they get it when you leave.