Re:Finland introduces the world’s first phone-free tourist i...
by throw_pm23 on Monday July 17, 2023 @02:57AM
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I haven't had a smartphone for ~7 years.
I love it.
I have a dumb phone hardly anyone calls, so often I leave it at home.
Re:Finland introduces the world’s first phone-free tourist i...
by _hush_ on Monday July 17, 2023 @03:35AM
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How do you do 2FA? Bank wire confirmations?
Never need Google Maps? No whatsapp and messenger to talk to friends and family?
I'd love to be smartphone free but fail to see how I could do without those uses
Re:Finland introduces the world’s first phone-free tourist i...
by jussij on Monday July 17, 2023 @03:49AM
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Dumb mobile phones still have SMS, so 2FA still works and since it is a telephone, talking to friends and family is also possible.
I suspect the reasons the OP gave up on the smart phone was to get away from all of those phone apps.
Re:Finland introduces the world’s first phone-free tourist i...
by _Algernon_ on Monday July 17, 2023 @04:32AM
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You probably shouldn't use SMS based 2fa. It's much worse than the alternatives.
Re:Finland introduces the world’s first phone-free tourist i...
by Mordisquitos on Monday July 17, 2023 @04:58AM
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While SMS-based 2FA may be worse than the alternatives, it is clear that the previous commenter has decided that having a smartphone is much worse than the alternatives.
Unless their financial institution offers a non-smartphone 2FA option, such as a PIN-based card reader[0], having to use SMS-based 2FA is a reasonable price to pay.
[0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chip_Authentication_Program
Re:Finland introduces the world’s first phone-free tourist i...
by throw_pm23 on Monday July 17, 2023 @01:15PM
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For wire transfer there are still alternatives although becoming more and more difficult unfortunately. Other things one can still do without a smartphone, and the benefits outweigh the cons (for me at least).
Re:Finland introduces the world’s first phone-free tourist i...
by Moru on Monday July 17, 2023 @03:14AM
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My mother has a dumbphone too. Sweden is soon shutting down the 2G and 3G networks so then it will certainly be quiet.
Re:Finland introduces the world’s first phone-free tourist i...
by Zitrax on Monday July 17, 2023 @04:13AM
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I don't have the full overview, but there are new "dumb" phones made that has 4G/5G, no? (Nokia 8210 seem to be one example, Punkt MP02 another)
Re:Finland introduces the world’s first phone-free tourist i...
by timeon on Monday July 17, 2023 @04:19AM
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But is Edge still available then?
Re:Finland introduces the world’s first phone-free tourist i...
by abwizz on Monday July 17, 2023 @04:27AM
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i suspect most countries will reatain 2g services as a fallback and for old infrastructure components
Re:Finland introduces the world’s first phone-free tourist i...
by Moru on Monday July 17, 2023 @04:24AM
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No
Re:Finland introduces the world’s first phone-free tourist i...
by distances on Monday July 17, 2023 @08:59AM
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Source for the 2G closure? 3G is getting silent in many areas but I've understood 2G usually stays to provide calls & sms in low coverage areas.
Re:Finland introduces the world’s first phone-free tourist i...
by distances on Tuesday July 18, 2023 @07:03AM
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Interesting, thanks. How will they cover the northern Sweden, I wonde.
Re:Finland introduces the world’s first phone-free tourist i...
by Moru on Tuesday July 18, 2023 @12:12PM
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Me does too. The coverage looks better than expected for 4G though so we will see how it actually works in the mountains...
Re:Finland introduces the world’s first phone-free tourist i...
by Thoeu388 on Monday July 17, 2023 @04:17AM
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How about you just put your phone on silent, and leave it in backpack? I need phone for maps, accommodation booking etc.. But on hike battery lasts a week, because it is in airplane mode.
Re:Finland introduces the world’s first phone-free tourist i...
by blowski on Monday July 17, 2023 @04:34AM
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Re:Finland introduces the world’s first phone-free tourist i...
by t-3 on Monday July 17, 2023 @08:37PM
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An important point for me was realizing that free will is an illusion and that conditioning myself to respond correctly is more effective than trying to be rational and have self control. Impulse will act before thought has even got a clue, so the impulse must be trained, not the mind.
Re:Finland introduces the world’s first phone-free tourist i...
by jwestbury on Monday July 17, 2023 @04:43AM
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Human nature is complex. Not everyone is as able to just put their phone on silent and leave it as you are. We've all got different levels of "noise" in our heads, telling us to do things, and it's not always trivial to turn off that noise.
Re:Finland introduces the world’s first phone-free tourist i...
by MichaelZuo on Monday July 17, 2023 @05:43PM
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So it doesn't sound like phones are the issue, but what information the users choose to view on their phones.
I loved it.
The days passed more slowly, I wrote more freely, read more deeply, and spent more time being aware of what was around me.