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Re:Geddit: Open-source, Reddit client for Android without us... by denysvitali on Wednesday July 12, 2023 @05:44AM (#36692266)
You can do the opposite: take the Reddit apps that aren't working anymore, do a one line change [1] (to use https://api.rings.social) and you're now able to use a Reddit client to browse Rings [2][3] - a Reddit API compatible content-voting platform licensed as AGPLv3.

[1]: https://github.com/rings-social/Infinity-For-Rings/commit/cd...

[2]: https://rings.social

[3]: https://github.com/rings-social

Re:Geddit: Open-source, Reddit client for Android without us... by thomond on Wednesday July 12, 2023 @07:09AM (#36692814)
It doesn't look like it's buzzing with activity. Six posts?
Re:Geddit: Open-source, Reddit client for Android without us... by denysvitali on Thursday July 13, 2023 @04:06AM (#36706273)
It's still being developed and other posts are available in the other rings. The "/r/popular" feed is not (yet) a feed
Re:Geddit: Open-source, Reddit client for Android without us... by RamblingCTO on Wednesday July 12, 2023 @08:12AM (#36693389)
This uses a different social network, doesn't it? Why would you want that? The point of reddit is the existing community
Re:Geddit: Open-source, Reddit client for Android without us... by denysvitali on Wednesday July 12, 2023 @09:30AM (#36694238)
Which migrated away because of all the API mess :D
Re:Geddit: Open-source, Reddit client for Android without us... by stainablesteel on Wednesday July 12, 2023 @10:58AM (#36695529)
where did they migrate to?

i'm still looking for a replacement to the r/python community that was [tyrannically] taken down by mods who hid a poll to do so under some vaguely named sticky post

that was the most useful place to find new python projects on the internet and i'm still peeved that the mods didn't propose any new place for the users to go

Re:Geddit: Open-source, Reddit client for Android without us... by Bystander22 on Wednesday July 12, 2023 @11:18AM (#36695841)
>some vaguely named sticky post

June 7: 'Should r/Python participate in the June 12th Blackout'

https://imgur.com/a/A2gfdmd

Re:Geddit: Open-source, Reddit client for Android without us... by stainablesteel on Wednesday July 12, 2023 @01:05PM (#36697827)
that was the first post, they shut down the re-opened

when they re-opened only mods could post, and it was a daily discussion thread

then there was a sticky, a poorly named one, where apparently there was another poll about what to do with the sub.

next comes a day when they plan to shut the sub down and the comment section is filled with people saying they didn't know this was happening and that the sticky was vaguely named.

so, no, i'm not referring to the june 7th post

Re:Geddit: Open-source, Reddit client for Android without us... by Bystander22 on Wednesday July 12, 2023 @02:30PM (#36699500)
I'm not sure they were hiding anything; maybe you just missed it among the thousands of other posts collectively across thousands of subs about the blackout protest. There was also:

* June 11: 'r/Python Will Black Out on June 12 at 00:00 UTC'

* June 12: 'By community vote, r/Python will Return to a Blackout'

* June 16: 'An Update about our Community' (text started with links, 'Here is a summary of the changes which prompted the recent Blackout. Here's our announcement for doing the Blackout....' and then 'Hence we wish to take another poll of community feedback...'

* June 28: 'By community vote, r/Python will Return to a Blackout'

Looks like the volunteer r/python mods were doing their best to keep everyone involved in the decision-making and informed of the outcomes while also juggling that volunteer activity for a for-profit company with their paying jobs and real-world responsibilities.

Re:Geddit: Open-source, Reddit client for Android without us... by stainablesteel on Wednesday July 12, 2023 @02:47PM (#36699789)
> * June 16: 'An Update about our Community' (text started with links, 'Here is a summary of the changes which prompted the recent Blackout. Here's our announcement for doing the Blackout....' and then 'Hence we wish to take another poll of community feedback...'

i'm confused about your post, is this 4 topics? was this all one long title? what was this except exactly as what i described it as?

and that's my point, it wasn't as transparent as it should have been

and if they want a blackout, so be it, but propose another place for people to aggregate. why destroy a community over this pettiness that's all but gone away since it happened? why does the same end result that happened in CrossValidated need to happen there too? what good does this do in the world?

its all passive aggressiveness when communication can literally solve everyones problem, especially when this was the issue with the reddit admins to begin with! why are they acting like the reddit admins by refusing to communicate properly? its all so ridiculous

Re:Geddit: Open-source, Reddit client for Android without us... by Bystander22 on Wednesday July 12, 2023 @03:29PM (#36700382)
>i'm confused about your post, is this 4 topics? was this all one long title? what was this except exactly as what i described it as?

It was one of many posts that the r/python volunteer mods made, giving everyone a chance to vote and discuss. Was it "hidden" as you say? I don't know - I don't think so, it was a vote-by-comment instead of reddit poll to reduce fakery, and it required some context so everyone knew what they were voting on.

Archive here: https://archive.is/WI5Ei

Good luck in your search for a new community. Perhaps drop in the discord server and see if anyone has suggestions for you. Link is on the sidebar of the archived page.

Re:Geddit: Open-source, Reddit client for Android without us... by stainablesteel on Wednesday July 12, 2023 @03:40PM (#36700515)
right, the topic title isn't called "vote here", its not direct

and if you archived the post later to include all the comments within, you'd see all the comments saying they didn't even know this was coming

and i probably won't need to find another community i'll just wait until these mods are dethroned by the admins

Re:Geddit: Open-source, Reddit client for Android without us... by thesuitonym on Wednesday July 12, 2023 @11:48AM (#36696389)
It's commonly considered bad form to not read the stickies on a forum you're posting on.

Here's an old, but handy guide to using internet forums (Posting And You): https://youtu.be/1t2mblcFQ-Q

Re:Geddit: Open-source, Reddit client for Android without us... by stainablesteel on Wednesday July 12, 2023 @01:06PM (#36697846)
its bad form to hide a poll inside a vaguely named sticky

then when an announcement was made about them shutting the sub down (post blackout), the thread was filled with people complaining that this wasn't a fair poll and that most weren't even aware it was there

Re:Geddit: Open-source, Reddit client for Android without us... by Tao3300 on Wednesday July 12, 2023 @11:09AM (#36695695)
All the subs I follow remain highly active. From my POV the "migration" was a vocal minority that is largely still there for want of a single viable alternative.
Re:Geddit: Open-source, Reddit client for Android without us... by BoxOfRain on Wednesday July 12, 2023 @08:35AM (#36693636)
A cool variation of this would be a Reddit API to ActivityPub bridge which would make it compatible with Lemmy, Kbin etc. I saw a project for this a while ago but can't remember what it's called.
Re:Geddit: Open-source, Reddit client for Android without us... by jeroenhd on Wednesday July 12, 2023 @09:22AM (#36694146)
You may be thinking of tafkars: https://github.com/derivator/tafkars

Activity seems to have died down now that some larger Reddit apps have announced they're building dedicated Lemmy clients. Connect for Lemmy is pretty good already, Sync is coming out with an app in a few weeks, and there are other apps out there as well.

Re:Geddit: Open-source, Reddit client for Android without us... by Sarkie on Wednesday July 12, 2023 @08:41AM (#36693704)
That's what people want. Compatible APIs, not content.
Re:Geddit: Open-source, Reddit client for Android without us... by rkangel on Wednesday July 12, 2023 @09:09AM (#36693996)
Surely the lesson from Reddit (and Twitter and every other commercial social media entity) is that we shouldn't put our trust in a single organisation?

if you're going to take the "pain" of moving away from the network effect of your existing walled garden, surely it would better to move to something with a better governance model, like a federated solution? Lemmy is far from perfect but I have found it to provide a lot of what I looked for in Reddit's absence.

[I only really use Reddit on mobile, and so with the absence of decent mobile apps Reddit is effectively shut down for me]

Re:Geddit: Open-source, Reddit client for Android without us... by denysvitali on Wednesday July 12, 2023 @10:12AM (#36694843)
Which is sort of also what you're doing with federated platforms. Just look at what's happening with Meta's Threads and Mastodon. In the end you'll always have someone in the driver seat deciding for you who's going to see what (by not federating with threads.net for example).

In a similar fashion, the code is AGPLv3 so you can run your own instance in both cases

Re:Geddit: Open-source, Reddit client for Android without us... by thesuitonym on Wednesday July 12, 2023 @11:45AM (#36696314)
The difference with a federated solution is that if you don't like the driver, you can switch to a different one.
Re:Geddit: Open-source, Reddit client for Android without us... by mikeravkine on Wednesday July 12, 2023 @02:56PM (#36699928)
No, no you can't! When the admin borks the server that holds your data, it's just gone.
Re:Geddit: Open-source, Reddit client for Android without us... by denysvitali on Wednesday July 12, 2023 @04:09PM (#36700929)
The same applies to your profile on a federated instance...
Re:Geddit: Open-source, Reddit client for Android without us... by millzlane on Thursday July 13, 2023 @07:49AM (#36707751)
Can you host your own profile?
Re:Geddit: Open-source, Reddit client for Android without us... by msla on Wednesday July 12, 2023 @10:45AM (#36695314)
It doesn't look like Rings has any content. I tried to "Explore" and all I found were a few test posts.
Re:Geddit: Open-source, Reddit client for Android without us... by denysvitali on Wednesday July 12, 2023 @04:11PM (#36700960)
The /r/popular is not a feed (yet) - you can create posts and rings such as /r/news [1].

https://rings.social/comments shows the latest comments and I plan on adding a similar feature (new?) to the /r/popular multi-rings

[1]: https://rings.social/r/news

Re:Geddit: Open-source, Reddit client for Android without us... by thesuitonym on Wednesday July 12, 2023 @11:51AM (#36696443)
How are there 3094892 subscribers to /r/news but only 6 posts (Seven if you count the one reply)?

What does Rings offer over Lemmy?

Re:Geddit: Open-source, Reddit client for Android without us... by denysvitali on Wednesday July 12, 2023 @12:19PM (#36696954)
https://github.com/rings-social/backend/blob/5ad749ded69fff2...

Rings gives an API compatibility layer for Reddit that should make the transition from Reddit to Rings easier - if the app developers decide to switch their app endpoints.