Once hailed for decriminalizing drugs, Portugal is now having doubts

Re:Once hailed for decriminalizing drugs, Portugal is now ha... by alsetmusic on Saturday July 08, 2023 @04:33PM (#36648437)

I don’t see an argument against the social merit of alcohol here. I dated an enabler who knew that alcohol helped ease my social anxiety around strangers. She told me we’d get a couple of drinks into me at the bar when going to office parties. It worked. Made me very sociable.

I’m genuinely curious how you define sociability of a drug or substance. I know alcohol is detrimental to society at large. On an individual basis, I find it quite attractive for social gatherings.

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Re:Once hailed for decriminalizing drugs, Portugal is now ha... by robocat on Saturday July 08, 2023 @06:18PM (#36649345)

Calling alcohol social feels like an evil marketing gimmick - certainly our advertising pretends it is social.

Alcohol is deeply socially destructive - we know the stereotypical examples of damage in the the poor and the indigenous communities. The examples of damage in middle-class homes of the wealthy (e.g. doctors) and the average working class (tradies and nurses) is much less visible.

The words “social” and “alcohol” are immiscible.

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Re:Once hailed for decriminalizing drugs, Portugal is now ha... by JTon on Saturday July 08, 2023 @10:00PM (#36650772)

We're very far apart on this issue. I feel like you must not drink socially, so you're not exposed to the milder effects of alcohol. Alcohol enables both social and anti-social behavior. It doesn't have to be black and white.

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Re:Once hailed for decriminalizing drugs, Portugal is now ha... by robocat on Sunday July 09, 2023 @02:27AM (#36652122)

I drink at pubs and with friends.

I have an alcohol free home (I have seen too many friends slowly change from one small drink a night to a problem within a few years.

I have seen too many devastating consequences of “social” drinking to think it is safe.

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