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Re:Meta pledges Three-Year sponsorship for Python if GIL rem... by OldManRyan on Saturday July 08, 2023 @08:57AM (#36643940)
You not reading the thread is problematic. Meta is pledging 3 years of engineer time not money.
Re:Meta pledges Three-Year sponsorship for Python if GIL rem... by Macha on Saturday July 08, 2023 @09:27AM (#36644184)
And it's 3 years of engineer time to work on this project, so I don't get the bribery insinuation. Engineer time to work on a specific project is only valuable if you consider the specific project valuable.

You could maybe make the argument that they're trying to swing priorities if this is considered valuable but less valuable than other things, but give the PSF doesn't actually employ anyone who it can direct to work on specific projects anyway, how is this any different from the already existing prioritisation process of "things that somebody is interested enough to go through the PEP process and then work on"

Re:Meta pledges Three-Year sponsorship for Python if GIL rem... by nullindividual on Saturday July 08, 2023 @09:26AM (#36644176)
Time is money. Meta is pledging the salaries of three individuals.
Re:Meta pledges Three-Year sponsorship for Python if GIL rem... by YetAnotherNick on Saturday July 08, 2023 @09:52AM (#36644408)
But it is just for the nogil project. If suppose python foundation doesn't believe merit in GIL, they aren't getting any benefit out of the situation.
Re:Meta pledges Three-Year sponsorship for Python if GIL rem... by nullindividual on Saturday July 08, 2023 @10:08AM (#36644565)
Never the less, the OP is incorrect. Time is money. The fact HN doesn't seem to recognize this and downvoted the comment is mystifying.

We all remember the anti-OSS 'Linux is only free if your time is free'.

Re:Meta pledges Three-Year sponsorship for Python if GIL rem... by YetAnotherNick on Saturday July 08, 2023 @10:32AM (#36644785)
Because the whole point of the thread is "It creates a conflict of interest because money" which it doesn't. Time costs money, sure, but time is not equal to money. There are many differences. Otherwise where is my money from HN.
Re:Meta pledges Three-Year sponsorship for Python if GIL rem... by nullindividual on Saturday July 08, 2023 @10:38AM (#36644835)
Woah, are you kidding? I would have died to have people dedicated to OSS I worked on! Time is money. We get paid for our _time_ at the core of what we do as a profession. This should be plainly obvious.

The alternative is Meta puts in no money to salaries and benefits for up to three individual's time on this project, or Meta puts in no money at all.

Meta is paying, one way or another, for this project.

Re:Meta pledges Three-Year sponsorship for Python if GIL rem... by YetAnotherNick on Saturday July 08, 2023 @04:24PM (#36648350)
> Meta is paying, one way or another, for this project.

Did I deny this?

To put it in extreme clear example, just said time for someone to punch you != time for someone to work for you, while money is same all across. I hope you don't disagree with it.

Re:Meta pledges Three-Year sponsorship for Python if GIL rem... by ZiiS on Saturday July 08, 2023 @09:50AM (#36644391)
TBH having CPython internal experiance is quite a qualification. They would probably contribute at least some of thier time in the no PEP 703 case so the delta is even leass.
Re:Meta pledges Three-Year sponsorship for Python if GIL rem... by stavros on Saturday July 08, 2023 @09:58AM (#36644458)
It doesn't really matter to the argument though, no?