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Re:ProtonMail Rewrites Your Emails by lilyball on Friday July 07, 2023 @07:39PM (#36639706)
If you are looking for a new host, I'm pretty happy with Fastmail.
Re:ProtonMail Rewrites Your Emails by CharlesW on Friday July 07, 2023 @07:55PM (#36639814)
I'll throw my hat in the ring for iCloud+, which I migrated to from Google Workspace (using imapsync) and may be a good choice if you use iCloud anyway. Apple's been hosting email for a few decades now, and they've been a reliable, no-muss/no-fuss email host for me.

https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT212514

Re:ProtonMail Rewrites Your Emails by codetrotter on Friday July 07, 2023 @08:01PM (#36639857)
One of my favourite features with iCloud mail is generating new email addresses for each service, in a very integrated straight forward manner

Before iCould I used to to this manually with my own mail

In the first iteration I had a catch all address, so I could invent any new email address and it would arrive to me. This was plagued by spam because any conceivable user @ my domain would be delivered to me.

In the second iteration I manually created aliases in the config file for my mail server when signing up for new things. This was additional overhead and annoying.

iCloud thanks to the integration into Safari and apps is so smooth with this. I just click the “hide my email” button and it generates a new unique email for the place I am filling in an email address.

I love it!

Re:ProtonMail Rewrites Your Emails by zwily on Friday July 07, 2023 @08:06PM (#36639892)
This isn’t a feature of iCloud mail - Apple will do this no matter who your provider is. They create an address and then just forward emails for it to your real address.
Re:ProtonMail Rewrites Your Emails by withinboredom on Friday July 07, 2023 @08:16PM (#36639959)
Fastmail + 1password also has this feature.
Re:ProtonMail Rewrites Your Emails by pests on Friday July 07, 2023 @08:40PM (#36640124)
The Apple version is very nicely integrated into iOS.
Re:ProtonMail Rewrites Your Emails by withinboredom on Friday July 07, 2023 @08:47PM (#36640171)
Not sure what you mean by this? The 1password version is integrated using the exact same hooks/methodology as Apple's; except it isn't Apple's.
Re:ProtonMail Rewrites Your Emails by evulhotdog on Friday July 07, 2023 @08:48PM (#36640179)
Unfortunately when it comes to the masked email feature in iCloud+, there are finite number of emails they let you generate for that, which means you’ll end up sharing between services. It’s something like 150, and I can personally say I have about 500 or so right now in fast mail for different logins, and I haven’t even fully migrated yet.
Re:ProtonMail Rewrites Your Emails by latexr on Friday July 07, 2023 @09:05PM (#36640289)
> when it comes to the masked email feature in iCloud+, there are finite number of emails they let you generate for that, (…) It’s something like 150

Do you have a source? I did find reports saying that it was limited to 100 during the beta but that the limit has since been lifted. People are claiming almost 350 addresses with no cap.

https://discussions.apple.com/thread/253893742

https://www.reddit.com/r/iOSBeta/comments/pbfg1t/hide_my_ema...

https://www.macrumors.com/guide/ios-15-privacy/

Re:ProtonMail Rewrites Your Emails by evulhotdog on Friday July 07, 2023 @09:11PM (#36640348)
It’s been at least a year or so since I read that, so it’s very possible that it’s changed.

As is typical Apple fashion, it’s not documented anywhere that’s easy to find.

Re:ProtonMail Rewrites Your Emails by latexr on Saturday July 08, 2023 @01:04PM (#36646324)
> As is typical Apple fashion, it’s not documented anywhere that’s easy to find.

I agree Apple’s documentation is terrible, but if there is no limit (any more) then there would little reason to document that.

Re:ProtonMail Rewrites Your Emails by bobbylarrybobby on Sunday July 09, 2023 @01:00AM (#36651670)
Indeed, if there's no limit, you probably want to not document it, lest you tempt someone with too much time on their hands to test if unlimited really means unlimited.
Re:ProtonMail Rewrites Your Emails by twleo on Friday July 07, 2023 @09:30PM (#36640467)
iCloud filter rules is so weak...
Re:ProtonMail Rewrites Your Emails by bobbylarrybobby on Sunday July 09, 2023 @01:01AM (#36651675)
On iCloud.com, yeah, but on Mac you can use rules to run arbitrary code on your emails, which is pretty sweet.
Re:ProtonMail Rewrites Your Emails by twleo on Sunday July 09, 2023 @01:34AM (#36651854)
Hmm. I rely mores on server-side filter rules because I don't use native Mail client.
Re:ProtonMail Rewrites Your Emails by bunga-bunga on Saturday July 08, 2023 @05:28AM (#36642801)
> for a few decades now, and they've been a reliable

It seems that Apple has gotten better at online services, but MobileMe was not that long ago.

Re:ProtonMail Rewrites Your Emails by slondr on Friday July 07, 2023 @08:02PM (#36639865)
They don’t even do server side encryption, though. Might as well use Gmail.
Re:ProtonMail Rewrites Your Emails by intermerda on Friday July 07, 2023 @08:47PM (#36640172)
I’ve been using Skiff for just a few days. The interface looks polished, and they have e2e encryption. It’s relatively new though.
Re:ProtonMail Rewrites Your Emails by Yujf on Saturday July 08, 2023 @04:17AM (#36642438)
They do e2e to other skiff users, but given that the majority of your mail probably goes to none skiff users, what are you gaining?
Re:ProtonMail Rewrites Your Emails by brobinson on Friday July 07, 2023 @08:11PM (#36639922)
They are based in Australia, though.
Re:ProtonMail Rewrites Your Emails by MrVandemar on Friday July 07, 2023 @08:16PM (#36639960)
Is that a negative?

I guess the redback spiders do make nests in the server-racks sometimes.

Re:ProtonMail Rewrites Your Emails by TheHappyOddish on Friday July 07, 2023 @08:15PM (#36639952)
Good? You seem to be implying that's a worse thing than wherever Proton Mail is based, but haven't stated why.
Re:ProtonMail Rewrites Your Emails by davejk on Friday July 07, 2023 @08:25PM (#36640029)
Australian law allows the government to demand access to your email, and Fastmail hold the encryption keys. That's not the case for Switzerland.
Re:ProtonMail Rewrites Your Emails by drexlspivey on Friday July 07, 2023 @08:47PM (#36640169)
What encryption keys? Fastmail doesnt offer encrypted email
Re:ProtonMail Rewrites Your Emails by davejk on Friday July 07, 2023 @09:06PM (#36640296)
Data at rest in encrypted volumes. That's not saying much, obviously; you'd hope everyone is using encrypted storage for user data by now.
Re:ProtonMail Rewrites Your Emails by spiderice on Friday July 07, 2023 @08:30PM (#36640050)
Not GP, but I would imagine they’re referring to Australia’s not-so-stellar track record with encryption lately.
Re:ProtonMail Rewrites Your Emails by strken on Friday July 07, 2023 @08:25PM (#36640027)
It's Swiss. From memory they have pretty good legal protections for privacy, at least compared to Australia.