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Re:Ask HN: What stage of grief are you at regarding climate ... by karmakurtisaani on Friday July 07, 2023 @05:57AM (#36629464)
I love how Greta annoys some predominantly 30+ men. "You're supposed to be talking about climate change, but not like that!"

How to say you're an aging white man without saying it explicitly.

Re:Ask HN: What stage of grief are you at regarding climate ... by gettodachoppa on Friday July 07, 2023 @08:47AM (#36630899)
You're low-key confirming the belief that this whole climate change hysteria is more about reducing the economy and quality of life in the west out of racial hatred than anything else. The men at climate change protests are almost exclusively white when I see them, but facts be damned, huh?

If you had said this about any other race your comment would be flagged right now and you might even lose your job if your employer got wind of it. But as things stand, you'd probably be showered with praise if your employer is a big tech, mainstream media, or academia institution.

Re:Ask HN: What stage of grief are you at regarding climate ... by karmakurtisaani on Friday July 07, 2023 @09:17AM (#36631286)
Eh. I'm not terribly interested in starting a flame war, so you do you.

FWIW, I'm a mid-age white man myself, so no need to be offended for me.

Re:Ask HN: What stage of grief are you at regarding climate ... by gettodachoppa on Saturday July 08, 2023 @02:29AM (#36641894)
I get it, your mind has been under constant assault for a decade to make you buy into a certain narrative and beliefs, to the point where you think it's OK (virtuous, even! Proclaim it as loud as you can on social media for good boy points! Self-hatred is the most virtuous of hatred after all.) to be racist, because it's against a target deemed valid.

Damn, the shit you've let the establishment feed you...

Re:Ask HN: What stage of grief are you at regarding climate ... by karmakurtisaani on Saturday July 08, 2023 @04:02AM (#36642361)
Man, you know me better than I do, and from 2 internet comments!
Re:Ask HN: What stage of grief are you at regarding climate ... by the_cramer on Friday July 07, 2023 @11:24AM (#36633133)
I've been thinking a lot about what my problem is. It's the talking itself. and talking and talking. It's this instagram-twitter good-riddance "i spread the message for karma" thing that's so hip today. Everybody presents the message, and only the corpos are to blame.

Where's the leverage the consumer has with their behaviour? Why don't we use that? Because it's uncomfortable. People want to travel 2 times a year, they want infinite stock in the supermarket, they want more, now, fast.

I don't mind people talking. But at the end it's useless if these people don't act also until we're fully renewable (or near that)

Re:Ask HN: What stage of grief are you at regarding climate ... by karmakurtisaani on Friday July 07, 2023 @04:54PM (#36638162)
We still need the talking before anything an happen. In the past 3 years a lot in the public discourse has changed, and climate change is no longer a fringe alarmist issue. It's not enough, but it's one of the few ways to sway the public opinion.