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Re:Threads profiles can't be deleted without removing your e... by smcf on Thursday July 06, 2023 @06:28PM (#36624094)
I don't have an Instagram account so I tried to create one to try Threads. I used my real name and phone number but it was instantly banned as soon as it was created. I submitted an appeal, which required a selfie taken while holding a piece of paper with my username on it, which I provided. The next day I got an automated email that the selfie wasn't "acceptable" (no further elaboration) and that I was permanently banned from Instagram with no route for further appeal. So overall, not the most seamless onboarding experience I've ever seen.
Re:Threads profiles can't be deleted without removing your e... by barbariangrunge on Thursday July 06, 2023 @06:34PM (#36624166)
When I signed up for Twitter I had something similar happen. Banned for life by an automated system, probably because I was using a vpn, with no option to appeal
Re:Threads profiles can't be deleted without removing your e... by dorkwood on Thursday July 06, 2023 @07:19PM (#36624685)
I couldn’t log in to Instagram for over a year due to a bug with my account. At first, there was no recourse. Then, they released Meta Verified, which offered customer support for a monthly subscription fee. It took about 50 emails back and forth (most some version of “I’m sorry, there’s nothing we can do”) before they finally fixed it for me. I deleted it shortly after.

I really hope all the developers and artists I follow don’t move to Threads. I’m not exactly jumping at the chance to use an Instagram product again.

Re:Threads profiles can't be deleted without removing your e... by kramerger on Friday July 07, 2023 @02:42PM (#36636494)
At least you could close your account.

My twitter account is banned. Not sure why as I've never used it. I can neither activate it or delete it, or contact support, as they all require a working account.

Their entire system is falling apart, but maybe this one is intentional.

Re:Threads profiles can't be deleted without removing your e... by lakomen on Saturday July 08, 2023 @08:34AM (#36643769)
Same. Banned at the moment of creation.
Re:Threads profiles can't be deleted without removing your e... by bobbruno on Wednesday July 12, 2023 @04:27PM (#36701169)
How can that fly if the operate in Europe, if GDPR provides the right to be forgotten? If you won’t even be acknowledged, that blocked account may contain private information about you that you must be allowed to request deletion of.
Re:Threads profiles can't be deleted without removing your e... by londons_explore on Thursday July 06, 2023 @07:29PM (#36624771)
They generally believe that nearly everyone living in a western nation will already be in their user database. Ie. your friends will have already uploaded your phone number to them, or you'll already have an account on one of their other products (Whatsapp, Facebook, Instagram).

If you are an adult and they don't have any record of you, then you're probably a fraudster, bot, scammer, or someone else they don't want, so they ban you.

The way to get unbanned is to make sure at least 30 or so friends have your phone number in their contacts list synced to facebook, all with similar names, and then sign up to instagram with that phone number.

I'm guessing you signed up with a burner phone and email address... Well thats not what they want...

Re:Threads profiles can't be deleted without removing your e... by smcf on Thursday July 06, 2023 @07:44PM (#36624935)
I signed up with my primary email address and phone number (non-VOIP, belongs to a carrier). I even have a WhatsApp account (also under Meta's purview) with this phone number.
Re:Threads profiles can't be deleted without removing your e... by Hizonner on Thursday July 06, 2023 @07:58PM (#36625062)
"Friends" is a funny word for people who give your contact information to Facebook.
Re:Threads profiles can't be deleted without removing your e... by runarberg on Thursday July 06, 2023 @08:41PM (#36625442)
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Re:Threads profiles can't be deleted without removing your e... by barbazoo on Thursday July 06, 2023 @08:07PM (#36625134)
Is that a realistically reasonable thing to judge someone by?
Re:Threads profiles can't be deleted without removing your e... by sjeiekejdjd on Thursday July 06, 2023 @08:21PM (#36625262)
one of my friends? yes.
Re:Threads profiles can't be deleted without removing your e... by cf141q5325 on Thursday July 06, 2023 @08:43PM (#36625464)
I cant come up with an explanation why it wouldnt be. On the moral side, its clearly a no go to sell your friends stuff/data. On the practical side, its really hard to argue that you are not aware this is happening. Can you elaborate?
Re:Threads profiles can't be deleted without removing your e... by 2muchcoffeeman on Thursday July 06, 2023 @08:51PM (#36625533)
One of them probably installed WhatsApp and added everyone in their contacts to WhatsApp.

When these companies are actively trying to trick their users, can you really blame the users?

Re:Threads profiles can't be deleted without removing your e... by cf141q5325 on Thursday July 06, 2023 @08:57PM (#36625581)
They still did not have to click that button. This isnt a get out of jail free card, intention only gets you so far. There is a reason stupidity doesnt protect against punishment. You are expected to pay attention when effecting on other people.

edit: This is a lot like getting signed up for some multilevel marketing scam by a friend. They better be really sorry and you better reevaluate the spare key you gave that stupid person with low self control. Which you should have realized earlier.

Re:Threads profiles can't be deleted without removing your e... by barbazoo on Friday July 07, 2023 @12:23PM (#36634093)
Not everyone is as savvy as us and knows of all the consequences. Facebook is exceptional at tricking people. It's their entire business model basically.
Re:Threads profiles can't be deleted without removing your e... by bitcharmer on Friday July 07, 2023 @07:02AM (#36629920)
I warned everyone in my circles about that before removing WhatsApp prior to their privacy policy changes post FB takeover.

Yes, it's entirely on the people who decided it's OK to share my data with FB.

Re:Threads profiles can't be deleted without removing your e... by 2muchcoffeeman on Saturday July 08, 2023 @09:52AM (#36644405)
There are so many people that could have your number.

That one plumber you called that one time, who added your number to their phone could have added everyone in their contact list to WhatsApp.

Maybe you did a favour for someone and helped out their cousin and you gave the cousin your number and never talked to them again.

Maybe you had a friend you lost touch with and their number changed but they kept their address book.

You told absolutely everyone? Are you sure? Absolutely everyone and stressed to them how important this was to them?

Worse, are these replies which completely lack empathy. Such a lack of imagination as to how your number could leak. And a tone as if no one has anything else going on in their lives or more important things to do.

Re:Threads profiles can't be deleted without removing your e... by cf141q5325 on Sunday July 09, 2023 @12:20AM (#36651466)
You do realize this is pure diffusion of responsibility? Something you can paraphrase as "It could have been anyone" is not an argument for this not to be wrong. I also believe the lack of empathy comment to be uncalled for. You not valuing your personal data doesnt give you the right to disregard mine. Especially with a friend, those dont profit off each other because of a personal disregard for the cost.

Its something worth considering, seeing as it has been two days and unsurprisingly nobody could come up with an actual justification for such behavior.

Re:Threads profiles can't be deleted without removing your e... by jimmySixDOF on Thursday July 06, 2023 @08:07PM (#36625143)
How 1984 is that ?
Re:Threads profiles can't be deleted without removing your e... by zdragnar on Thursday July 06, 2023 @08:31PM (#36625349)
There are many examples floating about of Threads being very paternalistic regarding what opinions are allowed. This instance, however, is just "bad automated system fails basic scenario".

OP never even had a chance to engage in thought crimes.

Re:Threads profiles can't be deleted without removing your e... by cyanydeez on Saturday July 08, 2023 @06:42AM (#36643152)
He's just not worth the ad dollars vs spammer equation
Re:Threads profiles can't be deleted without removing your e... by debesyla on Thursday July 06, 2023 @08:19PM (#36625243)
Not at all. (Unless you count all distopian scenarios as "1984".)
Re:Threads profiles can't be deleted without removing your e... by antod on Thursday July 06, 2023 @10:44PM (#36626414)
Seems more "Brazil" to me.
Re:Threads profiles can't be deleted without removing your e... by yieldcrv on Saturday July 08, 2023 @11:35AM (#36645389)
On a scale of what Orwell imagined in the 1940s about the year 1984?

a 1 out of 10

Re:Threads profiles can't be deleted without removing your e... by dtgriscom on Thursday July 06, 2023 @08:34PM (#36625383)
> The way to get unbanned is to make sure at least 30 or so friends have your phone number in their contacts list synced to facebook, all with similar names, and then sign up to instagram with that phone number.

That requires someone with a whole lot more motivation than me. I'll pass.

Re:Threads profiles can't be deleted without removing your e... by cyanydeez on Saturday July 08, 2023 @06:41AM (#36643147)
From their perspective, you're not worth advertising to unless you're "social"
Re:Threads profiles can't be deleted without removing your e... by afandian on Sunday July 09, 2023 @03:51AM (#36652537)
Based on GP, sounds like you had a lucky escape!
Re:Threads profiles can't be deleted without removing your e... by 12907835202 on Saturday July 08, 2023 @02:00PM (#36646963)
I can't believe that's true. I have friends who make new accounts all the time for jokes or memes. I don't think they're putting a huge amount of effort into it.
Re:Threads profiles can't be deleted without removing your e... by slim on Sunday July 09, 2023 @12:28PM (#36655879)
thak you for this explanation (it explains my similar experience with instagram)
Re:Threads profiles can't be deleted without removing your e... by jrib on Thursday July 06, 2023 @07:32PM (#36624807)
I submitted a png that said "I value my privacy and will not submit a photo of myself" with black text on a white background. My account was reinstated. Found it pretty funny.
Re:Threads profiles can't be deleted without removing your e... by Validus on Thursday July 06, 2023 @08:38PM (#36625418)
I just submitted the same - lets see what they say
Re:Threads profiles can't be deleted without removing your e... by Validus on Thursday July 20, 2023 @01:42PM (#36803975)
Update: The account wasn't approved.
Re:Threads profiles can't be deleted without removing your e... by KSPAtlas on Sunday July 09, 2023 @07:30AM (#36653609)
Wonder if it was automated image detection or some person who was checking the selfies decided to let you in
Re:Threads profiles can't be deleted without removing your e... by tlhunter on Thursday July 06, 2023 @08:02PM (#36625090)
I had the exact same experience several months ago.
Re:Threads profiles can't be deleted without removing your e... by jimmySixDOF on Thursday July 06, 2023 @08:04PM (#36625113)
It's outrageous they refuse to allow user defined and owned identities. This is where government oversight is needed to give sovereign identity to the account owner not Meta or any other databroker dressed up as a platform provider.
Re:Threads profiles can't be deleted without removing your e... by malermeister on Saturday July 08, 2023 @05:49AM (#36642900)
That's part of what the EU is trying to do with the Digital Markets act, and also the reason Threads isn't available there yet.
Re:Threads profiles can't be deleted without removing your e... by miduil on Thursday July 06, 2023 @08:28PM (#36625325)
same by me :(, the mail in plaintext was like the most ridiculous part. just sad because lost some twitter mutuals who are only also on Instagram
Re:Threads profiles can't be deleted without removing your e... by el_benhameen on Thursday July 06, 2023 @08:35PM (#36625395)
Hey, props to you for making it that far. I tried to choose an already-taken username and the creation flow shat the bed and booted me.
Re:Threads profiles can't be deleted without removing your e... by tr3ntg on Thursday July 06, 2023 @08:39PM (#36625431)
Interesting. Not long ago I created an alt FB account using all fake data about myself, the only real thing was my selfie matching the username. Except I was approved instantly. I wonder what the pass/fail rate is for this system.
Re:Threads profiles can't be deleted without removing your e... by bitcharmer on Friday July 07, 2023 @06:59AM (#36629895)
Had a very similar experience with creating Instagram account a while back. It's pretty stupid but in the end I think it was for the better.
Re:Threads profiles can't be deleted without removing your e... by LegitShady on Friday July 07, 2023 @04:31PM (#36637916)
Some years ago I tried to sign up for Twitter and got immediately banned for suspicious activity (following interesting people?).

They required I scan my photo id with address to unlock the account. I told them to go fuck themselve

Re:Threads profiles can't be deleted without removing your e... by lakomen on Saturday July 08, 2023 @08:31AM (#36643746)
Facebook has the dating feature. I created a profile. Gave some up- and downvotes and comments. After a while of doing so a pop-up with "dating needs to be a safe place" I need to verify my identity via a video call. Are you shitting me? I didn't even do VideoID when I created a new bank account, surely I'll trust the biggest data grabbing company on the planet and give them money worth content in form of VideoID. My account was an Instagram account from 2015 which I used to create the Facebook account. That was my 2nd attempt on dating. The 1st was uninteresting. A month later, after I had deleted my instagram account I tried again and the result is what I wrote just now. The 1st attempt had no such obstacles.
Re:Threads profiles can't be deleted without removing your e... by nojs on Saturday July 08, 2023 @08:54AM (#36643911)
For what it’s worth, the same thing happened to me and after about 4 or 5 rounds of take a selfie, get approved, get instantly banned again I was finally approved for good. And it has worked ever since.