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A comment on GPT-4 API General Availability.

Re:GPT-4 API General Availability by ftxbro on Thursday July 06, 2023 @05:22PM (#36623253)
> "Starting today, all paying API customers have access to GPT-4."

OK maybe I'm stupid but I am a paying OpenAI API customer and I don't have it yet. I see:

    gpt-3.5-turbo-16k
    gpt-3.5-turbo
    gpt-3.5-turbo-16k-0613
    gpt-3.5-turbo-0613
    gpt-3.5-turbo-0301
I don't see any gpt-4

Edit: Probably my problem is that I upgraded to paid API account within the last month, so I'm not technically a "paying API customer" yet according to the accounting definitions.

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Re:GPT-4 API General Availability by codazoda on Thursday July 06, 2023 @05:27PM (#36623318)
> Today all existing API developers with a history of successful payments can access the GPT-4 API with 8K context. We plan to open up access to new developers by the end of this month, and then start raising rate-limits after that depending on compute availability.

Same for me. I signed up only a few days ago and was excited to switch to "gpt-4" but I haven't paid the first bill (save the $5 capture) so I probably have to continue to wait for this.

I made a very simple command-line tool that calls the API. You run something like:

    > ask "What's the opposite of false?"
https://github.com/codazoda/askai
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Re:GPT-4 API General Availability by stavros on Thursday July 06, 2023 @05:54PM (#36623641)
Interesting, I did exactly the same (with the same name), but with GPT-4 support as well:

https://www.pastery.net/ccvjrh/

It also does streaming, so it live-prints the response as it comes.

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Re:GPT-4 API General Availability by JimDabell on Thursday July 06, 2023 @08:55PM (#36625561)
The llm command-line tool looks great:

https://llm.datasette.io/en/stable/

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Re:GPT-4 API General Availability by stavros on Thursday July 06, 2023 @09:00PM (#36625608)
It does, thanks for this! I didn't know about it.
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Re:GPT-4 API General Availability by ftxbro on Thursday July 06, 2023 @09:04PM (#36625635)
are we out here typing our api keys into random pips and am i a boomer that i would be hesitant to do it
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Re:GPT-4 API General Availability by JimDabell on Thursday July 06, 2023 @09:46PM (#36625945)
It’s not a “random pip”. The maintainer is a well-known open source developer (one of the creators of Django and Datasette). It’s also a very small codebase – not many places for malicious code to hide.
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Re:GPT-4 API General Availability by ftxbro on Thursday July 06, 2023 @10:12PM (#36626152)
OK but I mean I don't know them and it could have been someone pretending to be them, and probably it's easily possible to trick me about API keys. We are discussing it on a hacker news website do you seriously think tricks couldn't be hidden in a repo like that.
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Re:GPT-4 API General Availability by bestcoder69 on Thursday July 06, 2023 @10:29PM (#36626298)
https://github.com/search?q=repo%3Asimonw%2Fllm%20OPENAI_API...

Let us know what you find.

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Re:GPT-4 API General Availability by ftxbro on Thursday July 06, 2023 @10:46PM (#36626433)
I found a few github issues related to api key security and management. I'm not 100% sure of your point.
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Re:GPT-4 API General Availability by jabradoodle on Friday July 07, 2023 @08:15AM (#36630544)
I see no open issues.

It's around 1k lines of python, audit the code if you care and rotate your keys.

Or don't use it.

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Re:GPT-4 API General Availability by JimDabell on Friday July 07, 2023 @12:26AM (#36627121)
Do you only use software by people you know? At some point there has to be an element of trust when you run software you downloaded over the Internet. If a small utility maintained by a well-known member of the developer community doesn’t qualify for that trust, then I think that rules out an awful lot of software that all of us here probably use on a day to day basis. This is not an extraordinary level of risk.
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Re:GPT-4 API General Availability by ftxbro on Friday July 07, 2023 @12:56AM (#36627331)
> "well-known member of the developer community"

OK sorry I didn't know them.

I mean I usually use software that came with my computer or ones that I apt-install from the official ubuntu distribution. I know it's not perfect security but at least it's more than a hacker news link to a github pip. If I had to use other ones then it's usually from people I know.

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Re:GPT-4 API General Availability by fnordpiglet on Thursday July 06, 2023 @07:14PM (#36624619)
So, I've been a paying customers for a while now and don't see it either :-(
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Re:GPT-4 API General Availability by zzzzzzzza on Thursday July 06, 2023 @05:28PM (#36623336)
can't speak for others but I have two accounts

1. chat subscription only

2. i have paid for api calls but don't have a subscription

and only #2 currently has gpt4 available in the playground

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Re:GPT-4 API General Availability by MiSeRyDeee on Thursday July 06, 2023 @07:17PM (#36624653)
I was a on paid account since last month and was never really billed for my $8 dollar usage. I don't have GPT-4 access either.
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Re:GPT-4 API General Availability by wokwokwok on Thursday July 06, 2023 @08:03PM (#36625102)
Same. It's not in the model list response from https://api.openai.com/v1/models
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Re:GPT-4 API General Availability by wiihack on Friday July 07, 2023 @06:17AM (#36629615)
The official docs say, you need at least one successful API invoice to get access to GPT-4.
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Re:GPT-4 API General Availability by JuanPosadas on Saturday July 08, 2023 @09:26AM (#36644179)
That's weird, just make me prepay $5 for credits or something.
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Re:GPT-4 API General Availability by aeonque on Friday July 07, 2023 @09:35AM (#36631528)
Same issue, any updates?
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