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Re:Toyota Is Right: We Need More Hybrid Cars and Fewer EVs. ... by tomcar288 on Thursday July 06, 2023 @04:20PM (#36622248)
Yes, that would be the most environmentally friendly option. I think, a lot of people miss the fact that a lot of the oil is used in the production of the car and battery. there's a breakdown on this somewhere.

Personally, I think a big part of the issue is the size of vehicles that have been mandated by regulatory agencies. Why don't we move towards micromobility?, something between a E-bike and a super light weight car. that would require far less lithium, and far less oil.

Re:Toyota Is Right: We Need More Hybrid Cars and Fewer EVs. ... by Loughla on Thursday July 06, 2023 @04:25PM (#36622349)
I would kill for an ultra efficient, all-wheel drive, lightweight car the size of a smart car at most. But with a top speed of 70 or so. Also, a small trailer hitch so I can hook a small wagon on for groceries and other things to pack around.

Edit: Unironically, something like the P45 (https://topgear.fandom.com/wiki/P45), but maybe with a bubble instead of my arms out.

Re:Toyota Is Right: We Need More Hybrid Cars and Fewer EVs. ... by paraselene_ on Thursday July 06, 2023 @04:40PM (#36622633)
> between a E-bike and a super light weight car

Like, a e-scooter/motorcycle? I see hundereds of them during my daily commute. Costs around $3000, and about $20 in monthly charge costs.

Re:Toyota Is Right: We Need More Hybrid Cars and Fewer EVs. ... by tomcar288 on Thursday July 06, 2023 @09:09PM (#36625675)
most of those are all gas powered.

the ones that are electric are usually limited to 28mph or just a little more than that. also, very few if any are 4 seaters.

Re:Toyota Is Right: We Need More Hybrid Cars and Fewer EVs. ... by xnx on Thursday July 06, 2023 @06:11PM (#36623889)
> I think, a lot of people miss the fact that a lot of the oil is used in the production of the car and battery.

You are not going to be happy to learn where the $128 billion for California's high speed rail and other mass transit infrastructure goes: concrete, asphalt, steel, and lots and lots of dirty fuel for the mining equipment and earth movers. Salaries for high-paid consultants on the project may be spent on air travel or other luxuries.