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Re:FreeBSD at 30 years: Its secrets to success by pjmlp on Wednesday July 05, 2023 @01:30PM (#36603779)
Being used as foundation for PlayStation OS, Netflix and others.

Being available alongside Linux distributions as official supported OS on major cloud vendors.

Maybe the contributions to upstream could be better, but that is the choice they decided to make.

Re:FreeBSD at 30 years: Its secrets to success by pseudonym0us on Wednesday July 05, 2023 @01:44PM (#36604058)
>Being used as foundation for PlayStation OS, Netflix and others.

Isn't that thanks to its license? They literally can be used in closed source software without a word of credit.

Re:FreeBSD at 30 years: Its secrets to success by throw0101c on Wednesday July 05, 2023 @02:03PM (#36604432)
Netflix gives back quite a lot. You'll see "Sponsored by: Netfix" quite often in commit messages:

* https://www.freshsource.org/commits.php

There isn't much special secret sauce that Netflix has at the OS layer of things, so there's not much reason for them to keep the patches in-house (and then have to maintain as the public source rolls forward). Other vendors that give back are Dell EMC Isilon (keeping their OneFS code private), Juniper, Netgate, etc.

Sony is unique in that it was a one-time fork, and now that the product is out there's not much churn in things.

Most vendors have learned that keeping things in-house just causes pain down the road when you have to re-base with the latest FreeBSD release.

Re:FreeBSD at 30 years: Its secrets to success by monocasa on Wednesday July 05, 2023 @11:43PM (#36610882)
From what I've heard, they use FreeBSD pretty much just in their CDN appliances. Apparently their application servers are mainly Linux.

There's a lot of weird reasons why you'd use FreeBSD in storage appliances that I have mixed feelings about.

Re:FreeBSD at 30 years: Its secrets to success by Freaky on Thursday July 06, 2023 @07:51AM (#36614443)
Re:FreeBSD at 30 years: Its secrets to success by Zambyte on Wednesday July 05, 2023 @02:15PM (#36604654)
> They literally can be used in closed source software without a word of credit.

This is not true of any of the "acceptable licenses" listed by FreeBSD.

https://www.freebsd.org/internal/software-license/

See: the clauses saying "must reproduce/retain the above copyright".

Re:FreeBSD at 30 years: Its secrets to success by pseudonym0us on Wednesday July 05, 2023 @03:39PM (#36605977)
>See: the clauses saying "must reproduce/retain the above copyright".

Yeah, you will see the copyright if you are working at the company. Outsiders would never know it's a fork.

Re:FreeBSD at 30 years: Its secrets to success by Zambyte on Wednesday July 05, 2023 @05:05PM (#36607110)
Read the licenses more closely.
Re:FreeBSD at 30 years: Its secrets to success by pseudonym0us on Thursday July 06, 2023 @05:46AM (#36613530)
Work in a project with BSD-licensed stuff.
Re:FreeBSD at 30 years: Its secrets to success by Zambyte on Thursday July 06, 2023 @07:55AM (#36614469)
If you're fine with violating the license, then there is nothing stopping you from closing the source to GPL licensed software without a word of credit. I'm not sure what your point is.
Re:FreeBSD at 30 years: Its secrets to success by pseudonym0us on Thursday July 06, 2023 @04:15PM (#36622162)
No need to violate the license, just close the source and no outsider would know it's a fork.
Re:FreeBSD at 30 years: Its secrets to success by Zambyte on Friday July 07, 2023 @10:43AM (#36632480)
See clause 2 of both BSD licenses.
Re:FreeBSD at 30 years: Its secrets to success by throw0101c on Wednesday July 05, 2023 @01:57PM (#36604310)