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Re:How to pass any first-round interview (even in a terrible... by zizee on Tuesday July 04, 2023 @11:45AM (#36588221)
What is a better alternative?
Re:How to pass any first-round interview (even in a terrible... by speak_plainly on Tuesday July 04, 2023 @12:07PM (#36588521)
Reading and assessing resumes and having a single interview with HR and the hiring manager or a panel. And this process should fit within the larger operational framework and processes of a company.
Re:How to pass any first-round interview (even in a terrible... by FabHK on Tuesday July 04, 2023 @12:16PM (#36588682)
How can 2 measurements (CV + 1 i/v) be better than 8 measurements (CV + 7 i/vs, with different kind of questions, to boot)?
Re:How to pass any first-round interview (even in a terrible... by speak_plainly on Tuesday July 04, 2023 @12:36PM (#36589034)
This is a misplaced concreteness fallacy.
Re:How to pass any first-round interview (even in a terrible... by tourist2d on Tuesday July 04, 2023 @07:00PM (#36593600)
This is you deflecting a valid question.
Re:How to pass any first-round interview (even in a terrible... by therealdrag0 on Tuesday July 04, 2023 @05:01PM (#36592466)
Have you been involved in hiring software engineers much?
Re:How to pass any first-round interview (even in a terrible... by ClumsyPilot on Tuesday July 04, 2023 @12:03PM (#36588466)
Certifications should mean something, not be a sales channel for AWS
Re:How to pass any first-round interview (even in a terrible... by hedora on Tuesday July 04, 2023 @12:07PM (#36588533)
That sound terrible. Most jobs are for specialty positions, so you'd need 10,000's of different certifications tracks.

A written engineering competency test (basically, an industry-standard set of whiteboard questions) sounds good, but, having hired credentialed-but-incompetent engineers from other fields, I can definitely say it helps a lot less than you'd think.

Re:How to pass any first-round interview (even in a terrible... by wyclif on Tuesday July 04, 2023 @11:13PM (#36595137)
There is no reason why we can't have that, and I don't think you'd need that many tracks. Even something as narrow as cybersecurity has several different (ISC)2 tracks. They could have a different cert for each major programming language, for instance.
Re:How to pass any first-round interview (even in a terrible... by hedora on Wednesday July 05, 2023 @11:26AM (#36601731)
So, I write mission critical software that sits behind narrow interfaces. In my field, security and correctness are basically synonyms. Other people manage large fleets of machines, and there intrusion detection is probably the best you can do. Still other sets of people write frontend software with 10,000's of dependencies, so dependency management is the name of the game. Still others deal with PII and credit card numbers, and in that space compliance matters deeply.

I could list many more sub-disciplines of cybersecurity, but I'm already up to five (and haven't even mentioned cryptography!). None of the skill sets from the five I mentioned really translate well to each other.

Also, what purpose would having a cert for a programming language serve? For things like C++ and JavaScript, there are so many sub-dialects that the cert wouldn't say much about whether you could write inside a particular code base. For things like rust and go, the certificate would need to expire every few years.

Also, it takes an experienced developer a day or two to pick up a new language. Getting a certificate for a language would take longer than that. That lands us where we are right now, where such certifications exist, but they're simultaneously too much trouble to be worth it, and also not worth the paper they're printed on.