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Re:Tesla on track to smash targets after producing almost a ... by themitigating on Sunday July 02, 2023 @10:30PM (#36568014)
In CA there's a state tax credit that is equal to the federal which makes it insane to pass up
Re:Tesla on track to smash targets after producing almost a ... by currio on Sunday July 02, 2023 @10:39PM (#36568074)
Doesn't California have a income limit for tax credit eligibility?

135k for single income and 200k if you are jointly filing?

Re:Tesla on track to smash targets after producing almost a ... by bonestamp2 on Sunday July 02, 2023 @11:44PM (#36568504)
The federal credit has an income limit too.

I don't like that there is an income level cutoff. Hear me out... a single person with an income of $299k living in Nebraska has way more expendable income than a single income family with 4 kids with an income of $299k living in the bay area.

Re:Tesla on track to smash targets after producing almost a ... by hedora on Monday July 03, 2023 @12:58AM (#36569069)
You can lease a kia or hyundai for one month, then buy it, and get the federal credit, regardless of income.

In order to bypass the made in America restrictions, they take the commercial fleet credit, then pass it on to you.

Re:Tesla on track to smash targets after producing almost a ... by currio on Monday July 03, 2023 @01:13AM (#36569179)
Is that right? If you lease and buy you get federal credit regardless of the income? Does it apply to any manufacturer?
Re:Tesla on track to smash targets after producing almost a ... by themitigating on Monday July 03, 2023 @01:24AM (#36569225)
Yes. This happens with alot of subsidies but how would you determine what a person should receive?

People could have multiple children, debt, sick relatives, etc.

Maybe that 300k person in Nebraska had 20 kids or something. Using the area as a measurement is complex

Re:Tesla on track to smash targets after producing almost a ... by bonestamp2 on Monday July 03, 2023 @02:00AM (#36569399)
> how would you determine what a person should receive?

If it's truly an incentive, incentivize everyone. I know people who make $1 million/year who will argue over $10. $7500 would absolutely affect their behavior even though they can afford an EV without it.

Re:Tesla on track to smash targets after producing almost a ... by brucethemoose2 on Sunday July 02, 2023 @10:44PM (#36568112)
Does it apply to the Model X?

Environmental subsidies on a $100k car doesn't seem quite right... Doubly so if it applies to stuff like the Hummer EV.

Re:Tesla on track to smash targets after producing almost a ... by bee_rider on Sunday July 02, 2023 @11:04PM (#36568259)
Although, every Hummer that is replaced by a Hummer EV is a pretty big win.
Re:Tesla on track to smash targets after producing almost a ... by brianwawok on Sunday July 02, 2023 @11:15PM (#36568331)
Federal does not
Re:Tesla on track to smash targets after producing almost a ... by themitigating on Monday July 03, 2023 @01:28AM (#36569249)
No, 45k for cars and 60k for pickups , suvs, minivans.

https://cleanvehiclerebate.org/en/eligibility-guidelines

But just to add to a reply. A Hummer EV charged with renewables is better than an SUV as long as it lasts more than x miles .

Obviously there's complexity about what it's replacing, where that goes blah blah

Re:Tesla on track to smash targets after producing almost a ... by omnimus on Monday July 03, 2023 @02:23AM (#36569500)
It is truly insane that its 15k more for large cars. Afaik its really bad that everyone has big cars when they absolutely dont need them. No matter if they are EVs they are still lot less efficient…

Seems like this could have been incentive for people to go back to normal sized cars - it should have been same or even more for cars than for large vehicles.

Re:Tesla on track to smash targets after producing almost a ... by mensetmanusman on Monday July 03, 2023 @10:20AM (#36573266)
It helps create the economies of scale to make the supply chain more likely to support lower costs later.
Re:Tesla on track to smash targets after producing almost a ... by frumper on Monday July 03, 2023 @02:05AM (#36569422)
The Central Valley in California has another tax credit on top of that too.