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Re:Illegal Life Pro Tip: Want to ruin your competitors busin... by permo-w on Sunday July 02, 2023 @08:46PM (#36567414)
>I sincerely hope that the next round of EU laws tackles this instead of privacy

why instead?

Re:Illegal Life Pro Tip: Want to ruin your competitors busin... by berkle4455 on Sunday July 02, 2023 @09:06PM (#36567525)
Because privacy laws have zero teeth and workarounds are technically easy (or endlessly annoying for zero new outcome, e.g. see cookie popups). If the EU would actually enforce GDPR it would be amazing.

Meanwhile these companies who have essentially became a public utility don’t provide customer support or explanations.

Re:Illegal Life Pro Tip: Want to ruin your competitors busin... by youngtaff on Monday July 03, 2023 @08:29AM (#36571944)
Lots of companies are expending a lot of effort to ensure they respect GDPR

Non EU companies are the worst offenders at not understanding their privacy obligations (particularly ones that provide tags)

Re:Illegal Life Pro Tip: Want to ruin your competitors busin... by Yizahi on Monday July 03, 2023 @09:41AM (#36572745)
I'm guessing that the core idea behind GDPR laws wasn't a to flood internet with banner popups, but to limit excessive and unneeded for honest usage, storage of PII. IIRC GDPR allows for some limited PII storage without any banners, but it is restricted in time and scope, to prevent selling this data. Instead nobody is limiting usage of the data (not even Eurocommission site with GDPR rules) because that is not enforced in reality. So in essence GDPR law was a spectacular expensive failure, because nobody restricted their PII processing and analytics.
Re:Illegal Life Pro Tip: Want to ruin your competitors busin... by permo-w on Monday July 03, 2023 @12:20PM (#36575142)
GDPR forces companies to make a choice: stop invasively selling data, or get explicit permission to do so. if a company chooses the shady second option, they have to hamstring their UX and have a big nasty banner that says "we don't give a fuck about your privacy"

it's actually very clever. the more profit hungry and and invasive a company is, the more desperate they are to sell your data, the shittier they have to make their website - or break the law and get a nasty fine a year or two down the line

this idea that gdpr isn't enforced or is somehow expensive (?) doesn't have any grounding in reality: just 2 months ago, Meta was fined 1.2 billion euros for GDPR breaches. they've also already been fined hundreds of millions multiple times. in 2021, Amazon was fined ~800m euros. smaller businesses are being fined all over the place[1]. GDPR is the opposite of expensive. it's profitable

GDPR is a huge deal at companies that handle any data at all. they don't think it's not being enforced

if you were criticising the lack of enforcement of a github policy, do you think you'd actually go and make sure they weren't enforcing it? so why not the EU?

[1] - https://www.enforcementtracker.com/

Re:Illegal Life Pro Tip: Want to ruin your competitors busin... by permo-w on Monday July 03, 2023 @09:36AM (#36572685)
your ideas are contradictory:

>If the EU would actually enforce GDPR it would be amazing

>The EU should not focus on privacy laws any further

and not to be advdersarial, but they do enforce GDPR. have a look at the enforcement tracker and sort by Fine:

https://www.enforcementtracker.com/

TLDR: less than 2 months ago, Meta - one of those de facto public utilities you're describing - was fined 1.2 Billion Euros for GDPR breaches. they and Amazon have previously been fined hundreds of millions

Re:Illegal Life Pro Tip: Want to ruin your competitors busin... by philwelch on Monday July 03, 2023 @11:23AM (#36574202)
If the EU privacy regulations didn’t actually solve the problem, what makes you think they would do any better regulating customer support?
Re:Illegal Life Pro Tip: Want to ruin your competitors busin... by esperent on Tuesday July 04, 2023 @12:57AM (#36582405)
Well because there's already been a lot of laws passed in that regard and there's already momentum. I don't mean they should stop this momentum, these privacy laws are incredibly important.

I meant the need to start a new front.