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Re:AMD CPU Use Among Linux Gamers Approaching 70% Marketshare by pizza234 on Sunday July 02, 2023 @03:53PM (#36565023)
> but Nvidia just works

Not really. On some/several/many Nvidia cards (I had a few), one can't even boot with a stock Ubuntu CD, because Nouveau has (unfortunately) a very lacking support, and proprietary drivers are not preinstalled by default on the CD.

AMD's drivers are at least open source and integrated in the kernel. On the other hand though, having owned several Nvidia and AMD cards, I didn't find any brand to be noticeably more stable than the other (each one had issues).

Re:AMD CPU Use Among Linux Gamers Approaching 70% Marketshare by SadTrombone on Sunday July 02, 2023 @04:08PM (#36565152)
> Nouveau has (unfortunately) a very lacking support, and proprietary drivers are not preinstalled by default on the CD.

In my opinion an open-source driver not written by Nvidia and an Ubuntu ISO not packaged by Nvidia aren't indicators of Nvidia "just work"ing or not. There are many distros where Nvidia drivers come installed out of the box.

Re:AMD CPU Use Among Linux Gamers Approaching 70% Marketshare by mindslight on Sunday July 02, 2023 @05:39PM (#36566065)
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Re:AMD CPU Use Among Linux Gamers Approaching 70% Marketshare by jokethrowaway on Sunday July 02, 2023 @07:11PM (#36566791)
fglrx was pretty nightmareish itself 15+ years ago

nvidia driver on the contrary has always been reliable

Re:AMD CPU Use Among Linux Gamers Approaching 70% Marketshare by mindslight on Sunday July 02, 2023 @08:28PM (#36567294)
Twitter and Reddit were pretty reliable, too. Needlessly putting yourself at the mercy of a company, especially perhaps for your main computer, seems like a recipe for waking up to headache where rage posting on social media is your only recourse.
Re:AMD CPU Use Among Linux Gamers Approaching 70% Marketshare by charcircuit on Sunday July 02, 2023 @09:59PM (#36567810)
99% of people's only recourse is rage posting on social media even if the drivers are open source. Not everyone is technical enough to work on graphics drivers or want to sponsor someone else to work on it.
Re:AMD CPU Use Among Linux Gamers Approaching 70% Marketshare by mindslight on Sunday July 02, 2023 @10:26PM (#36567984)
The point is to keep the development incentives aligned with your incentives, and for it to occur within the wider ecosystem, such that cross-purposes problems don't happen in the first place.
Re:AMD CPU Use Among Linux Gamers Approaching 70% Marketshare by Trapais on Monday July 03, 2023 @12:31AM (#36568879)
> In my opinion, formed from over two decades of Linux, a piece of hardware having a libre driver written for it is the exact indicator of what can be relied upon to "just work".

Then this opinion can be discarded as not grounded in reality. In order to run pytorch at high speed I need to do... basically nothing. It just works.

Many things can be said about ROCm support for 7900XT, none of them are positive. "It just works" drivers from AMD come several months too late.

Re:AMD CPU Use Among Linux Gamers Approaching 70% Marketshare by pizza234 on Wednesday July 05, 2023 @12:32PM (#36602813)
According to multiple sources, Ubuntu has more than 30% of the market share; independently how it is, it definitely has a lot of weight in the Linux world, and its practices/standards.
Re:AMD CPU Use Among Linux Gamers Approaching 70% Marketshare by charcircuit on Sunday July 02, 2023 @04:08PM (#36565149)
That sounds like a bug with Ubuntu not having the proper drivers.
Re:AMD CPU Use Among Linux Gamers Approaching 70% Marketshare by Remmy on Sunday July 02, 2023 @05:43PM (#36566101)
I just did a fresh Arch install last week. Running 6.4.1 kernel on a ThreadRipper CPU with an RTX 2070 Super and an RTX 3060. Driver version 535.54.03 and CUDA 12.2. Everything "just works". There was no manual configuration, tweaking or hacking around needed. No issues running Wayland, Proton is handling gaming beautifully and not a sign of screen tearing.

The experience is different for everyone it seems.

Re:AMD CPU Use Among Linux Gamers Approaching 70% Marketshare by ykonstant on Sunday July 02, 2023 @07:35PM (#36566953)
Same here with a much less beefy system; I did have screen tearing (on Xorg) which was fixed by following the instructions at https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/NVIDIA/Troubleshooting

I can play almost all single player games, whether they officially support proton or not; the only major game I have been unable to play (despite following all instructions online) is Gris.